Dirty Buggane Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Perchance the Sefton has a few of the good old boys that retired from the boys club. Sorry the government. And are having an untoward amount of influence on the incumbent boys club, Sorry I mean Government, m.w. being one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The tramway that is being built is intrinsically unsafe. How they got it through planning is a mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war baby Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It should have been built on the seaward side. That was the only sensible plan, other than mine, which is to put an oval banked track on the Summerland site with an electric horse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: The tramway that is being built is intrinsically unsafe. How they got it through planning is a mystery Given the various aspects that appear to have been incorporated or pushed through without any higher discussion or approval, would regard for planning matters even have been a consideration if they even existed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just wait unitl they get to the point of laying all that crazy paving over the 'shared space' shown in the early mockups. Should add another year or two on to the project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: The tramway that is being built is intrinsically unsafe. How they got it through planning is a mystery Isn't Baker is the Chair of the Planning Committee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, slinkydevil said: Just wait unitl they get to the point of laying all that crazy paving over the 'shared space' shown in the early mockups. Should add another year or two on to the project. Particularly if you remember how long it took to do Strand Street etc agree totally . Me thinks that might be dropped due to overspend etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: The tramway that is being built is intrinsically unsafe. How they got it through planning is a mystery Longtail is involved... where’s the feckin mystery? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 57 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: Isn't Baker is the Chair of the Planning Committee? He is indeed, which means whenever a DoI application comes up, he has to leave the meeting. Which makes him a fairly useless Chair to be honest. It's another example of how this 'double-jobbing' by MHKs is designed to make them ineffective. Which of course is the point - and one that, despite Lisvane's objections, actually has got worse under this government. There is absolutely no point in having the responsibility for some part of a Department, unless you also have the power to be able to change it[1]. Otherwise you just become another PR person bullshitting and apologising away without ever putting anything right. Given that even Ministers under Quayle aren't allowed to have any say in running their Departments (as we saw with Beecroft) then being a Departmental Member has no real purpose except for that 30% or 40% percent extra for being humiliated by the daily reminder of your impotence. [1] I mean proper systematic change, not getting the potholes filled in a constituent's road because they've been mithering you. Unfortunately that sort of petty clientelism seems to be limits of what most MHKs think they are there for. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Grounds Keeper Willy said: Where is his desk? In the car park? With any luck in one of the alleged voids on the Prom ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/27/2020 at 9:24 AM, MrPB said: Are you suggesting that the DOI is the latest incarnation of our fascination with fake industries? Just like the film industry years ago. Employ a few people, rip up roads, do next to nothing about it but make it look like a major project, then bill just the materials and everything else to claim the VAT? I wonder what the VAT count is on the various contractors' invoices on a £23M+ project though? Could well be a substantial contribution to a national claim under an annual VAT sharing arrangement? But what other earthly reason (apart from obvious executive-level ineptitude) could be behind this sort of total clusterfuck being tolerated, apparently ad infinitum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: I wonder what the VAT count is on the various contractors' invoices on a £23M+ project though? Could well be a substantial contribution to a national claim under an annual VAT sharing arrangement? But what other earthly reason (apart from obvious executive-level ineptitude) could be behind this sort of total clusterfuck being tolerated, apparently ad infinitum? That’s. Not. How. The. VAT. Share. Agreement. Works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, John Wright said: That’s. Not. How. The. VAT. Share. Agreement. Works. Have you got a surplus of full stops to get rid of John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Neil Down said: Have you got a surplus of full stops to get rid of John Just trying to make it simple for Non-Believer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 Thanks John. I'm just trying to raise the suggestion that this "activity" must, in some way, contribute to our GDP. It has to. Invoiced materials and labour. Regardless of whether it's private customers being billed or the Government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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