Nellie Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 hours ago, monasqueen said: It is a bloodbath, and the replies are pure bullshit. Harmer was absolutely pathetic in Tynwald. He'd been totally set-up by his officers, and was completely ill-prepared for even the most obvious questions. It'll be interesting to see if this comes back to Tynwald, or if it's a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, pongo said: Are you guys joking? I genuinely cannot work out. Clearly the sea level would be the same. The present beach provides a ramp for any decent wave to use to impact on the prom. At least if they reduce the angle and remove said ramp, the waves would hit the sea wall and crash back to sea. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, pongo said: Are you guys joking? I genuinely cannot work out. Clearly the sea level would be the same. That may well be the case but instead of the waves breaking against the sea wall the 'ramp' assists the waves on their merry way across the prom! Beaten to it! Edited May 12, 2020 by finlo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Nellie said: Harmer was absolutely pathetic in Tynwald. He'd been totally set-up by his officers, and was completely ill-prepared for even the most obvious questions. It'll be interesting to see if this comes back to Tynwald, or if it's a done deal. Harmer is one of about 15 people who should never, ever have entered politics. They are baulking all progress an£ should be f***ed off ASAP Edited May 12, 2020 by Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Numbnuts said: That will be another £500 k then !! How much have DBC spent shovelling seaweed back into the sea over the years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: How much have DBC spent shovelling seaweed back into the sea over the years? At one time I think it was £98,000 per year, awarded to someone connected to DBC too. Edited May 12, 2020 by finlo 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, finlo said: A one time I think it was £98,000 per year, awarded to someone connected to DBC too. Councillor even 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Scotty said: Harmer is one of about 15 people who should never, ever have entered politics. They are baulking all progress an£ should be f***ed off ASAP Yes or no, the problem doesn't truly lie with Harmer or any of the other weak willed well meaners we put in there. He like the rest of them is a mushroom. Wheeled out now and again into the blinding light to deflect attention from where it should be directed. The IoM CS needs a root and branch clearout. It has become a self-serving parasitic organism that is neither civil nor servants. That includes its tentacles that it spreads down into LAs with their own questionable motivations and performances. If what has gone on on Douglas Promenade cannot be seen as proof then there is no future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: Yes or no, the problem doesn't truly lie with Harmer or any of the other weak willed well meaners we put in there. He like the rest of them is a mushroom. Wheeled out now and again into the blinding light to deflect attention from where it should be directed. The IoM CS needs a root and branch clearout. It has become a self-serving parasitic organism that is neither civil nor servants. That includes its tentacles that it spreads down into LAs with their own questionable motivations and performances. If what has gone on on Douglas Promenade cannot be seen as proof then there is no future. But the elected puppets can’t make decisions or policies. Only the intelligent Civil servants can do that for them and give them the script or even the teleprompter to read. That is the limit of those not exposed to live questioning like HQ and David Ashford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, pongo said: Are you guys joking? I genuinely cannot work out. Clearly the sea level would be the same. Of course it would but it would reduce the amount of boulders fired across the prom at high tides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 1 hour ago, pongo said: Are you guys joking? I genuinely cannot work out. Clearly the sea level would be the same. Yes but take in wind direction and swells from storms then you have falsely heightened levels . If the beach area at the walkway was reduced you'd solve lots of problems as swell would hit the current wall which is designed to send back the sea . Flat calm day at highest tide you never get the sea level anywhere near the sea wall . 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Numbnuts said: Yes but take in wind direction and swells from storms then you have falsely heightened levels . If the beach area at the walkway was reduced you'd solve lots of problems as swell would hit the current wall which is designed to send back the sea . Flat calm day at highest tide you never get the sea level anywhere near the sea wall . I’ve been saying this for years 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Southfork said: Just how many marketing and PR people does government employ to create such an incompetent information delivery system? Nine https://www.gov.im/mediacentre/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Scotty said: The present beach provides a ramp for any decent wave to use to impact on the prom. At least if they reduce the angle and remove said ramp, the waves would hit the sea wall and crash back to sea. just as it was designed to do! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Baffling why the least expensive option has not been tried first of reducing the height of the beach at the sea wall. But maybe the sea wall doesn't go down two meters, or if it does, its foundations have been undermined and it would collapse without the support of the beach? Which could end up being a much more expensive job than just putting a wall on top to stop overtopping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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