Non-Believer Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I see they're kicking off now about DBC not replacing the promenade "necklace" festoon lighting as and when the prom ever progresses enough to allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southfork Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: I see they're kicking off now about DBC not replacing the promenade "necklace" festoon lighting as and when the prom ever progresses enough to allow it. Yes the Douglas festoon baubles. Or Cllr Christians Pearl Necklace as they have recently been referred to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, finlo said: Somewhere to charge yer Tesla? If only. Too tall and they are, in true DoI planning style, set a couple of inches into the pavement. Just can not for the life of me work out what they're for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: If only. Too tall and they are, in true DoI planning style, set a couple of inches into the pavement. Just can not for the life of me work out what they're for. Something to hang onto pissed while making your way from Jaks to the Lido? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, finlo said: Something to hang onto pissed while making your way from Jaks to the Lido? Lido ? If only. Brilliant place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 For the charging points, the planning application is 2000952B, and is the Pod Point Twin from pod-point.com. But a hand-written note on the planning application states that they want white columns, not black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Two-lane said: For the charging points, the planning application is 2000952B, and is the Pod Point Twin from pod-point.com. But a hand-written note on the planning application states that they want white columns, not black. So are all those drivers of petrol or diesel propelled cars paying for this load of shitty charging points for subsidised so called green cars to use. What price is green ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, dilligaf said: So are all those drivers of petrol or diesel propelled cars paying for this load of shitty charging points for subsidised so called green cars to use. What price is green ? Well, I am old and obviously a bit slow on the uptake, but can someone explain to me how an electric car that is running on electricity that is generated by burning natural gas can be considered to be carbon-free? ( Not to mention any conversion losses along the way, battery manufacturing, battery disposal, and other stuff...) 5 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Two-lane said: Well, I am old and obviously a bit slow on the uptake, but can someone explain to me how an electric car that is running on electricity that is generated by burning natural gas can be considered to be carbon-free? ( Not to mention any conversion losses along the way, battery manufacturing, battery disposal, and other stuff...) Well said 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Two-lane said: Well, I am old and obviously a bit slow on the uptake, but can someone explain to me how an electric car that is running on electricity that is generated by burning natural gas can be considered to be carbon-free? ( Not to mention any conversion losses along the way, battery manufacturing, battery disposal, and other stuff...) You won't be lauging when I pass you in my battery powered car driven by a forward wind generator. (maybe a chuckle though) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 i can't wait till the proms done https://izismile.com/2020/09/09/indian_traffic_is_intense_video.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 14 hours ago, dilligaf said: So are all those drivers of petrol or diesel propelled cars paying for this load of shitty charging points for subsidised so called green cars to use. What price is green ? 14 hours ago, Two-lane said: Well, I am old and obviously a bit slow on the uptake, but can someone explain to me how an electric car that is running on electricity that is generated by burning natural gas can be considered to be carbon-free? ( Not to mention any conversion losses along the way, battery manufacturing, battery disposal, and other stuff...) Like many things, mentioning reality to anyone in IoM Government doesn't meet with their long discussed agenda, they refuse to discuss it. They are always right, we are Plebs and know nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Max Power said: Like many things, mentioning reality to anyone in IoM Government doesn't meet with their long discussed agenda, they refuse to discuss it. They are always right, we are Plebs and know nothing. The politicians are rushing headlong into making everything electric, in spite of (according to the last data I saw) the IoM having the most expensive electricity in Europe, bar Guernsey. While he was chairman of the MUA, Allinson's contribution to reducing the cost of electricity was to stick another £20 million on the debt, so that everyone could get a brand new electricity meter. Maybe the intention is to make car usage too expensive for the less well-off, so they have to use the gold-plated buses - or the modern trams running on the prom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 16 hours ago, dilligaf said: Well said It's not really that simple is it. As we move to renewable sources of energy (wind/solar) then electric cars will be truly zero emissions. A diesel, petrol or even hybrid can never be this. At the moment, electric cars on the island are low emission as natural gas is a cleaner fuel and the power station is more efficient than an internal combustion engine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 a/transmission losses from power station to end user and losses conversion from 240v ac to vehicle storage system and losses during transmission, storage and conversion from storage to motive power? b/emissions created in manufacturing, transporting, erecting, maintaining, renewing wind/solar energy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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