The Voice of Reason Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 21 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Surely that wasnt DOI responsible for that !?? 21 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Surely that wasnt DOI responsible for that !?? No it wasn’t. I realized you meant DOI after I had posted it so then provided you with the two DOI examples, (one more than you asked for) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 5 months for that bridge, 5 months for 20m of road at most, over a stream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: 5 months for that bridge, 5 months for 20m of road at most, over a stream. The Bridge was supposed to take 15 weeks so clearly your answer fails miserably to fall between the 'brief' I gave you . And the the road was supposed to be a 12 week contract and again failed miserably to meet my 'brief' Sorry VOR you need to go back into your archives , must try harder comes to mind. However the real point is that the DOI and contractors fails pretty well everytime to meet timetables or budgets. You ,despite your attempts , cannot in any way justify your defence of that Department and management . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: The Bridge was supposed to take 15 weeks so clearly your answer fails miserably to fall between the 'brief' I gave you . And the the road was supposed to be a 12 week contract and again failed miserably to meet my 'brief' Sorry VOR you need to go back into your archives , must try harder comes to mind. However the real point is that the DOI and contractors fails pretty well everytime to meet timetables or budgets. You ,despite your attempts , cannot in any way justify your defence of that Department and management . ‘Supposed to take,’ Is that a firm commitment or an estimate? If the former I will concede to you. However the real point is that there is no good doing a rush job and consequently bodging it. (Although it appears that in the case of the prom it is a bodged job without the rush) 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: ‘Supposed to take,’ Is that a firm commitment or an estimate? If the former I will concede to you. However the real point is that there is no good doing a rush job and consequently bodging it. (Although it appears that in the case of the prom it is a bodged job without the rush) From IOM Goverment pages at the time. This project consists of the reconstruction of the Maine Road, form the junction with the Upper Promenade to Maine Avenue, a distance of approximately 180 metres. The finished scheme will provide a road with a design life of 40 years and which is capable of meeting traffic requirements throughout its proposed life span. JCK Ltd have been awarded the contract to deliver the work which will take 12 weeks to complete. Mullen-E-Quinney Bridge is at the bottom of Old Castletown Road and creates a narrowing of the road to a single carriageway width. The bridge deck is in poor condition and needs to be replaced. Paul Carey & Sons Ltd have been awarded the contract which commenced on site 24 July 2017 will take 15 weeks to complete. 'Supposed' too was my slant on the above as it clearly took alot longer for both contracts . Sorry but youve clearly picked the bum steer in trying to defend the DOI . PS sorry for font sizes but pasted from IOMG sites Edited July 5, 2021 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Port Erin took ages, had several mistakes in it with sections re-done, and has features that are frankly silly. It is a dreadful example to use as a defense of the dept. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oooohtony Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Went down parliament street Ramsey today. How many years ago was that? Overtime, over budget, the speed bumps wreck vehicles (and the road) and need relaying as are falling apart. The whole lot needs ripping up and doing again. Looks like it is at the end of its useful life already - total garbage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 VOR, how much are they paying you fella? The DOI is a basket case, there's no getting away from that. Yes there are a few dedicated individuals on the front line who put in a decent shift. But that doesn't change the failings of the department and their incompetent so-called management. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, oooohtony said: Went down parliament street Ramsey today. How many years ago was that? Overtime, over budget, the speed bumps wreck vehicles (and the road) and need relaying as are falling apart. The whole lot needs ripping up and doing again. Looks like it is at the end of its useful life already - total garbage The speed humps do work, lots of drivers/pedestrians use them as informal crossings, it’s also handy when you look to cross the road, you know you’ve plenty of time as they have no choice but to slow down to a crawl to negotiate them. As a driver though I hate going over them, it’s a first gear crawl for me and it still lightly catches the undertray, there was also a lot more parking with the old layout, particularly around the Chemist/Spar/new post office area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Numbnuts said: From IOM Goverment pages at the time. This project consists of the reconstruction of the Maine Road, form the junction with the Upper Promenade to Maine Avenue, a distance of approximately 180 metres. The finished scheme will provide a road with a design life of 40 years and which is capable of meeting traffic requirements throughout its proposed life span. JCK Ltd have been awarded the contract to deliver the work which will take 12 weeks to complete. Mullen-E-Quinney Bridge is at the bottom of Old Castletown Road and creates a narrowing of the road to a single carriageway width. The bridge deck is in poor condition and needs to be replaced. Paul Carey & Sons Ltd have been awarded the contract which commenced on site 24 July 2017 will take 15 weeks to complete. 'Supposed' too was my slant on the above as it clearly took alot longer for both contracts . Sorry but youve clearly picked the bum steer in trying to defend the DOI . PS sorry for font sizes but pasted from IOMG sites Presumably penalty clauses were included and invoked, or were the contract lengths merely aspirational? Edited July 5, 2021 by The Voice of Reason Adding extra words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 So 5 days until MyProm claim Broadway will be open for business. How do these people not have any sense of embarrassment from so many missed target dates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Ha ha ha ha hanging around.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Ha ha ha ha hanging around.... Is the gold plated David Christian statue going alongside that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oooohtony Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 13 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: Is the gold plated David Christian statue going alongside that? Won’t be stayin alive for long with that round it’s neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, oooohtony said: Won’t be stayin alive for long with that round it’s neck The way DBC spunk away the cash, perhaps this could be termed autoeroticasphyxiation? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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