Boris Johnson Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Banker said: It won’t be open on schedule which is Monday according to signs, publications etc. deserted at 1pm when I drove through. Thats a bit scary for school kids and their parents. How on earth are they to get there in the mornings and pick up at night? It is one of the busiest schools I have seen for kids being walked to school/ home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amadeus Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Sad as I am, I had to have a look how this road engineering marvel functions at night. Three observations so far: 1: it needs double yellows up Broadway and fast. Parking this close to a pedestrian crossing is not only wrong but dangerous. Can’t see people emerging behind the van when coming downhill. People walking from town centre towards palace often don’t use pedestrian crossing but walk across roundel as it’s shorter. Classic design flaw or expected behaviour? This crossing seems a bit dark. Might be ok once permanent lights are installed but for now an additional temporary one would improve pedestrian safety. It’s darker than the iPhone cam makes it look. Someone on Twitter also already replied that various bits on it might not be legal / in line with rules. I guess would need to be checked maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Sad as I am, I had to have a look how this road engineering marvel functions at night. Three observations so far: 1: it needs double yellows up Broadway and fast. Parking this close to a pedestrian crossing is not only wrong but dangerous. Can’t see people emerging behind the van when coming downhill. People walking from town centre towards palace often don’t use pedestrian crossing but walk across roundel as it’s shorter. Classic design flaw or expected behaviour? This crossing seems a bit dark. Might be ok once permanent lights are installed but for now an additional temporary one would improve pedestrian safety. It’s darker than the iPhone cam makes it look. Someone on Twitter also already replied that various bits on it might not be legal / in line with rules. I guess would need to be checked maybe? Don't worry we're so politically agile we'll change the law's to suit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Amadeus said: Sad as I am, I had to have a look how this road engineering marvel functions at night. Three observations so far: People walking from town centre towards palace often don’t use pedestrian crossing but walk across roundel as it’s shorter. Classic design flaw or expected behaviour? I thought that is how it is supposed to be used as it is shared space. certainly none of the pedestrian crossings appear to have the legal correct road markings for a real road Edited August 28, 2021 by ellanvannin2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, finlo said: Don't worry we're so politically agile we'll change the law's to suit! You mean "responsibility agile" surely? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 40 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: I thought that is how it is supposed to be used as it is shared space. certainly none of the pedestrian crossings appear to have the legal correct road markings for a real road If it was shared space then you wouldn't need a zebra crossing and a traffic light crossing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinkydevil Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 Once the Manx Rally special stage gets all over this they'll be no markings left so it'll all be fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, slinkydevil said: Once the Manx Rally special stage gets all over this they'll be no markings left so it'll all be fine. Doubt we'll ever see a manx rally again If the last shenanigans are anything to go on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 The DOI design Dept is clearly giving priority to unqualified under-graduate engineers with little or no practical experience in their chosen subject. Which was highlighted in the Beaman's Report which stated that the Dept "had engineers that may or may not be qualified", elicited by an FOI request by Trevor Cowin. In short, crayonistas in makeweight IoM Govt jobs. Add your own reasons why, I have mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Non-Believer said: The DOI design Dept is clearly giving priority to unqualified under-graduate engineers with little or no practical experience in their chosen subject. Which was highlighted in the Beaman's Report which stated that the Dept "had engineers that may or may not be qualified", elicited by an FOI request by Trevor Cowin. In short, crayonistas in makeweight IoM Govt jobs. Add your own reasons why, I have mine. I thought the designer was Borough Stewart, not the DOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie2 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I thought the designer was Borough Stewart, not the DOI Does not matter. Idiotic design is idiotic design in either case. And the DoI (the Despicable Department of Imbeciles) has had to sign off on any design. Edited August 29, 2021 by Cassie2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Cassie2 said: Does not matter. Idiotic design is idiotic design in either case. And the DoI (the Despicable Department of Imbeciles) has had to sign off on any design. .The DOI design Dept is clearly giving priority to unqualified under-graduate engineers with little or no practical experience in their chosen subject. Under graduate engineers signing off designs? Do you have proof of this unlikely scenario then. Does the DOI have a design department? Never heard of it. Edited August 29, 2021 by Happier diner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian rush Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Youre plainly the man to speak of engineering qualifications and what's going on in DoI. An undergraduate would still be at university rather than a job. And not the university of life you're proud of attending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: Does the DOI have a design department? You've found the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAsHell Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Happier diner said: .The DOI design Dept is clearly giving priority to unqualified under-graduate engineers with little or no practical experience in their chosen subject. Under graduate engineers signing off designs? Do you have proof of this unlikely scenario then. Does the DOI have a design department? Never heard of it. Looks like they do. https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/infrastructure/highway-services/projects-design-and-build/ Worryingly they insist that that the new prom walkway will be to same standard as the new adjacent road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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