Kopek Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) VoR. They haven't clarified the legal status of these circles? Edited September 1, 2021 by Kopek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Careless Driving may cover a lot of sins but this is down to lack of definition from the Govt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I’m assuming if/when there is an accident, the insurers will be looking to settle everything 50/50? If no one has right of way then nobody can be at fault? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Apart from the last paragraph where the police are opining on things they shouldn’t seems fair enough to me. They have clarified the status of the roundel and given advice how to use it They have not clarified but told people to use the roundel differently to what the DOI stated in the government press release from June which states it is to be driven in same way as any other roundabout. So who is right, the law makers or the law enforcers?. It needs sorting and quickly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: They have not clarified but told people to use the roundel differently to what the DOI stated in the government press release from June which states it is to be driven in same way as any other roundabout. So who is right, the law makers or the law enforcers?. It needs sorting and quickly That’s good that comment. One month till the election. Perhaps we should ask Tim Baker the Minister for his opinion, followed by Tim Baker the candidate for Ayre and Micheal MHK. Whilst we are at it, perhaps the candy for the General Election could give their opinion? Manx Problems awaiting a typical Manx Solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombay Bad Boy Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 For an 'unmarked junction' it seems to have a shitload of paint on the road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Kopek said: VoR. They haven't clarified the legal status of these circles? “ We would like to clarify that these roundels are not roundabouts. The two roundels should be treated as unmarked junctions as defined in the Highway Code” What part of that do you not understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: I’m assuming if/when there is an accident, the insurers will be looking to settle everything 50/50? If no one has right of way then nobody can be at fault? It could be a total free for all. A Manx Demolition Derby. Why go to Onchan Park! Badly designed, Badly implemented and Badly thought out in the legal sense. Another Manx Screw up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, 2112 said: It could be a total free for all. A Manx Demolition Derby. Why go to Onchan Park! Badly designed, Badly implemented and Badly thought out in the legal sense. Another Manx Screw up. Well it could be. On the other hand it could be Another Manx Success. I think we need to reserve judgement until the thing has been operational for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I thought the island had an obsession with big roundabouts (Gawnes Roundabout) and mini roundabouts. Or are roundels replacing roundabouts? The police are trying to interpret the Highway Code - it will end in tears especially if Athol Streets finest get involved, they win and the taxpayers are landed with the costs, all because of the polices interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Having negotiated this junction I agree with the police that this has to be treated as an unmarked junction It is unfortunate that the DOI felt the need to draw oval shapes all over it and tell people to treat it as a roundabout. It really is a department that is not fit for purpose. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: Another Manx Success. Name one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, finlo said: Name one! The Bee Gees Edited September 1, 2021 by The Voice of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/27/2021 at 6:30 PM, quilp said: Is it covered by CCTV? It would help if there's blame to be laid. Its an unmarked junction. The only issue was that some people thought they were roundabouts (despite them clearly not being, as there were no markings). They have now cleared up that they are unmarked junctions which are perfectly legal, explained in highway code and used all over the place. Total non issue having now been clarified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Its an unmarked junction. The only issue was that some people thought they were roundabouts (despite them clearly not being, as there were no markings). They have now cleared up that they are unmarked junctions which are perfectly legal, explained in highway code and used all over the place. Total non issue having now been clarified. That's kind of true, but unfortunate that the '"some people who thought they were roundabouts" were the people responsible for the design and building of them. If they thought they were incorporating roundabouts in the project they must be disappointed to find out how wrong they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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