Promenade - Megathread

[Ramseyboi]

58 minutes ago, Kopek said:

No, I said the way to treat them is as a roundabout.

Actually, the size of them may reduce the speed of traffic from the right.

Good luck with that, because most people won’t be because they arent

[Kopek]

Most people WILL because that is what we are used to.

In your scenario a problem might be the speed of southbound traffic who may see it as a straightaway but it is open enough to spot Broadway traffic, unless of course, you are distracted by the shared space pedx meandering over the crossing!!!

Actually there are some 'priorities' at unmarked junctions, traffic turning right gives way I think?

[The Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, Ramseyboi said:

You haven’t quite figured this out yet have you?

Traffic on the right has no priority.  It’s an unmarked junction and it is very simple.  Slow down and take care, but nobody gives way to you.

Quite right . When I come to a roundabout, say Hillberry when there is what a believe is called a “Mexican standoff “ I make my turn (cautiously).

You can see the  relief in other drivers faces as it all becomes suddenly unblocked.

[finlo]

5 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Quite right . When I come to a roundabout, say Hillberry when there is what a believe is called a “Mexican standoff “ I make my turn (cautiously).

You can see the  relief in other drivers faces as it all becomes suddenly unblocked.

When did they put a roundabout at Hillberry?

[The Voice of Reason]

5 minutes ago, finlo said:

When did they put a roundabout at Hillberry?

Don’t know. It’s also known as Cronk ny Mona which is why you might be getting confused.

Edited September 4, 2021 by The Voice of Reason

[quilp]

Regular users of these junctions should have the hang of them in no time. A little bit of mannered give and take, patience and increased spatial awareness is all it takes. It won't help the scared and the speedy drivers but they're already the ones causing the problems at standard and clearly-marked ones.

Has there been any collisions yet? 

[yorik]

13 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Don’t know. It’s also known as Cronk ny Mona which is why you might be getting confused.

Nope. Different corners and neither have a roundabout. Maybe you mean Signpost?

[finlo]

14 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

Don’t know. It’s also known as Cronk ny Mona which is why you might be getting confused.

No roundabout at Cronk ny Mona either? Perhaps you're thinking of Signpost?

[emesde]

Just now, finlo said:

No roundabout at Cronk ny Mona either? Perhaps you're thinking of Signpost?

Isn't that the one thats marked depending which direction you approach it with a mixture of Roundabout signs ,mini roundabout signs and from one direction a give way sign as well,,,,,,,,. All or nothing here isnt it?🤩

[Lightening McQueen]

This is on the school’s Facebook page -

Unfortunately the roadworks and installation of the crossing outside Braddan School will not be complete before the children return to school on Wednesday 8th September. Braddan Road will still be one way only.
This will mean considerable difficulties for dropping off and collecting pupils.
We have put the following plans in place which you will need to follow for the time that the roadworks are still in place.
*WHEREVER POSSIBLE WE URGE YOU TO CAR SHARE*
1. Children travelling to and from school by bus will still be able to do so.

2. Drop off by car in the morning – parents will be able to drop their children at the bus layby outside of school where staff will supervise their safe entry into the playground. Parents will
not be able to drive into the car park, park, or come in to the school playground. You will need to ‘drop and go’ – this is vital in order to keep the traffic flowing along Braddan Road. Children can only be dropped off from 8.45am. We will extend the registration period so that only children arriving after 9.30am will be marked as late.

3. Collection at the end of the day – all of the children (yr1 – 6) will walk to Ballafletcher Sports Ground (opposite Nobles Hospital) – they can be collected from there between 3.00 and 3.30pm. Any children who normally get the school bus home will be supervised at school until the bus arrives.

4. Walking – if your child walks to school in the morning – we would ask that they be accompanied by an adult as we cannot guarantee that the pavement will be completed, and the crossing is not fully installed. If your child walks home after school, school staff will walk with these children up to the point where the pavement is in place, but they may be home earlier than normal (as they will be part of the main group walking to be collected).

 For parents of children starting in the reception class, we will alter the start of the morning sessions to 9.30am, in order that you can park in the main car park. Morning collection times and afternoon start session times will remain unaltered. Afternoon collection times will be at 3.30pm where you can collect your reception child from the small reception playground.

During this first week back parents (yrs 1-6) will not be able to park and come in either before or after school starts and we appreciate this is not ideal. However you will be able to contact the school office either by phone or email.
We also understand that parents of pupils starting reception who also have older siblings will have additional difficulties.

Thank you for your understanding and support at this time.

Edited September 4, 2021 by Lightening McQueen

[Omobono]

19 minutes ago, Lightening McQueen said:

This is on the school’s Facebook page -

Unfortunately the roadworks and installation of the crossing outside Braddan School will not be complete before the children return to school on Wednesday 8th September. Braddan Road will still be one way only.
This will mean considerable difficulties for dropping off and collecting pupils.
We have put the following plans in place which you will need to follow for the time that the roadworks are still in place.
*WHEREVER POSSIBLE WE URGE YOU TO CAR SHARE*
1. Children travelling to and from school by bus will still be able to do so.

2. Drop off by car in the morning – parents will be able to drop their children at the bus layby outside of school where staff will supervise their safe entry into the playground. Parents will
not be able to drive into the car park, park, or come in to the school playground. You will need to ‘drop and go’ – this is vital in order to keep the traffic flowing along Braddan Road. Children can only be dropped off from 8.45am. We will extend the registration period so that only children arriving after 9.30am will be marked as late.

3. Collection at the end of the day – all of the children (yr1 – 6) will walk to Ballafletcher Sports Ground (opposite Nobles Hospital) – they can be collected from there between 3.00 and 3.30pm. Any children who normally get the school bus home will be supervised at school until the bus arrives.

4. Walking – if your child walks to school in the morning – we would ask that they be accompanied by an adult as we cannot guarantee that the pavement will be completed, and the crossing is not fully installed. If your child walks home after school, school staff will walk with these children up to the point where the pavement is in place, but they may be home earlier than normal (as they will be part of the main group walking to be collected).

 For parents of children starting in the reception class, we will alter the start of the morning sessions to 9.30am, in order that you can park in the main car park. Morning collection times and afternoon start session times will remain unaltered. Afternoon collection times will be at 3.30pm where you can collect your reception child from the small reception playground.

During this first week back parents (yrs 1-6) will not be able to park and come in either before or after school starts and we appreciate this is not ideal. However you will be able to contact the school office either by phone or email.
We also understand that parents of pupils starting reception who also have older siblings will have additional difficulties.

Thank you for your understanding and support at this time.

Can't  these muppets finish any job on time , they have had excellent weather , too many playing with their mobile phones, standing around  and wasting time , job should have been carried out split shift to take advantage of the daylight hours  7am until 2    and the next lot 2 until 8 pm  like everywhere else in the real world , It also looks like the water splash at the top roundabout  and useless drainage grids are not going to be tacked either , what a shambles  only in the Isle of Man!! 

[AlanShimmin]

58 minutes ago, Omobono said:

Can't  these muppets finish any job on time , they have had excellent weather , too many playing with their mobile phones, standing around  and wasting time , job should have been carried out split shift to take advantage of the daylight hours  7am until 2    and the next lot 2 until 8 pm  like everywhere else in the real world , It also looks like the water splash at the top roundabout  and useless drainage grids are not going to be tacked either , what a shambles  only in the Isle of Man!! 

No, they can't. 

 

They're blaming the fact they had to demolish and rebuild a wall as being the reason for the overrun. 

If the work was scouted out properly and planned right then if wouldn't be an issue. 

 

Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

[Non-Believer]

7 hours ago, Omobono said:

Can't  these muppets finish any job on time , they have had excellent weather , too many playing with their mobile phones, standing around  and wasting time , job should have been carried out split shift to take advantage of the daylight hours  7am until 2    and the next lot 2 until 8 pm  like everywhere else in the real world , It also looks like the water splash at the top roundabout  and useless drainage grids are not going to be tacked either , what a shambles  only in the Isle of Man!! 

I pass regularly through this section of road and there have been long periods where there has been no workforce present. But to be fair, if they have been dragged off the job on those occasions and sent down that utter shambles of a Promenade to work that's not the workforce's fault, that's more likely a political decision perhaps to do ultimately with an approaching election?

[Lightening McQueen]

13 minutes ago, Non-Believer said:

I pass regularly through this section of road and there have been long periods where there has been no workforce present. But to be fair, if they have been dragged off the job on those occasions and sent down that utter shambles of a Promenade to work that's not the workforce's fault, that's more likely a political decision perhaps to do ultimately with an approaching election?

Why move them from a time/safety critical project to one that is already running late, what does another few dats more delay to the Prom matter?

[Non-Believer]

34 minutes ago, Lightening McQueen said:

Why move them from a time/safety critical project to one that is already running late, what does another few dats more delay to the Prom matter?

Politics. Prom is higher profile and may have a bearing on somebody's re-election chances? There's been some significant "progress" on it during the last couple of weeks with sections reopening, personally I'd doubt that it's just a coincidence given what's gone on with it, somebody would be very keen for the public to be seeing things moving down there just lately?

And to be utterly cynical, if the Dept likes having that person "in charge" and would like that person back (apportion your own reasons), it might just be playing ball with the wishes for once.

Edited September 5, 2021 by Non-Believer
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