James Blonde Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Yes....back as far as Waterloo Rd too in the 60s, the basements in the terraces along there were regularly flooded. Building up and strengthening the Harbour walls in the mid 80s alleviated much of that, even the flooding of 7-odd years ago was nothing in comparison. How did the water used to get back that far? Was it over the top and through the streets, or was it some sort of groundwater flood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, James Blonde said: How did the water used to get back that far? Was it over the top and through the streets, or was it some sort of groundwater flood? Both, over the top as per the picture you've posted and the Waterloo Rd cellars used to have a central drain grid in the middle of the cellar floor IIRC (I grew up in one of the houses, the cellars were used as washrooms with mangles and all sorts). During exceptional tides it just ran in up the drains. I'd imagine that most of them have been blocked or sealed in some way by now though to stop it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 54 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Sea levels aren’t rising in any way that we need to be concerned for decades. None of the predictions of climate disaster and rising levels etc from years ago have come to anything and I don’t suddenly foresee Ramsey (which floods no more frequently than it did a hundred years ago) is suddenly going to start flooding regularly. If it is, then they might want to start by reconsidering where they are proposing to build the latest batches of housing just upstream. Yes they are, up to 30cms in the next decade due to the moon. Linky to NASA Quote a lunar cycle will amplify rising sea levels caused by climate change Mooragh isn't very deep, will not hold much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Yes they are, up to 30cms in the next decade due to the moon. Linky to NASA Mooragh isn't very deep, will not hold much. We will see. Lots of “studies” over the years have been total rubbish and I guess this will be the same. When I start seeing others in any number to back it up I will buy a few more sandbags “ according to the first study that takes into account all known oceanic and astronomical causes for floods.” Anyway, we are better off waiting for someone to figure out how to reduce the moons impact on flanks sea levels than waiting for the DOI to do anything of any use. All I can see their plan doing is causing bigger issues further up the river and making Ramsey even more shit than it already is. Edited October 8, 2021 by Ramseyboi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) I just skim reading that link and it’s total gash. Basically, a single study led by an assistant professor thinks that maybe, the next time the moon is having the same impact on tide as part of its 18 year cycle as it is NOW there is a chance that sea levels might have risen enough due to other factors that it may lead to flooding in some US cities. Load of rubbish Edited October 8, 2021 by Ramseyboi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, doc.fixit said: Have you seen the Castletown flood barrier? The flood gates open away from the water so the weight of the water is held by the bolts not the seals, ie, I think they are the wrong way round 'cos the water should surely press the gates closed against the seals ? What does anyone else think? So do you mean that the incoming tidewater is pushing the gates open? It does sound back to front! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 38 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: I just skim reading that link and it’s total gash. Basically, a single study led by an assistant professor thinks that maybe, the next time the moon is having the same impact on tide as part of its 18 year cycle as it is NOW there is a chance that sea levels might have risen enough due to other factors that it may lead to flooding in some US cities. Load of rubbish Some parts of the US have a very low tidal range, for example Florida where it can be just 65cms so the moon *will* have a big impact in the 2030s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Some parts of the US have a very low tidal range, for example Florida where it can be just 65cms so the moon *will* have a big impact in the 2030s. In Ramsey? The moon will have the same impact in the 2030s as it is having now and has always had. Edited October 8, 2021 by Ramseyboi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Someone better tell all the delegates and world leaders that are going to that COP 26 meeting in November that everything is okay and they don't need to bother...................................😭 #FlatEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Someone better tell all the delegates and world leaders that are going to that COP 26 meeting in November that everything is okay and they don't need to bother...................................😭 #FlatEarth No one is saying that. The long term issue for our kids and grandkids needs looking at. However any suggestion that we will see a significant increase in flooding in Ramsey this side of 2050 is simply an excuse to push through a scheme that will cost loads of parking spaces and just be a DOI vanity project. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Ramseyboi said: Sea levels aren’t rising in any way that we need to be concerned for decades. None of the predictions of climate disaster and rising levels etc from years ago have come to anything and I don’t suddenly foresee Ramsey (which floods no more frequently than it did a hundred years ago) is suddenly going to start flooding regularly. If it is, then they might want to start by reconsidering where they are proposing to build the latest batches of housing just upstream. Also building on said flood plains and other natural buffers pushes more water more rapidly into channels. Go around any new housing estate and any postage stamp gardens are swamped by concrete and tarmac. Acres or land once able to soak up sudden downpour and attenuate the runoff, now it's shunted straigh into the nearest drain. This is why Peel Road go so bad. An extract from National Strategy on Sea Defences, Flooding and Coastal Erosion: Evidence Report A small number or dispersed properties follow the Glen Auldyn Stream north towards Ramsey. There is a history of flooding here but only a small number of properties are at risk. However, this stream is prone to fast flowing flashy floods which could lead to hazardous flood flows. Some action is required now but a large scheme may not be justifiable based on properties at risk alone. The area is highly sensitive to future climate change impacts. bewarethe flashy floods😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Someone better tell all the delegates and world leaders that are going to that COP 26 meeting in November that everything is okay and they don't need to bother...................................😭 #FlatEarth And in 20 years time it'll be what do we do about the nuclear waste, lithium contamination and decommissioning hundreds of expired wind farms when they become uneconomic once large scale green hydrogen and tidal come on line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeCurious Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Driver2020 said: Ramsey used to flood when i was teenager many years ago especially church street. Anywhere near Water Street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GD4ELI Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: No one is saying that. The long term issue for our kids and grandkids needs looking at. However any suggestion that we will see a significant increase in flooding in Ramsey this side of 2050 is simply an excuse to push through a scheme that will cost loads of parking spaces and just be a DOI vanity project. Rubbish. Follow what climate change is bringing already - Ramsey is under a four-pronged attack: Sulby river when there's been extended rainfall as has been predicted and being seen in other rivers, Surge due to longer and stronger storms from the east, Higher tides, Stupidity of the residents who prefer parking their cars to protecting the town. Maybe there's something in the water which affects intelligence? Edited October 8, 2021 by GD4ELI 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, GD4ELI said: Rubbish. Follow what climate change is bringing already - Ramsey is under a four-pronged attack: Sulby river when there's been extended rainfall as has been predicted and being seen in other rivers, Surge due to longer and stronger storms from the east, Higher tides, Stupidity of the residents who prefer parking their cars to protecting the town. Maybe there's something in the water which affects intelligence? It'll be even easier for these tasty specimens to swim up the river https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/invasive-salmon-species-found-in-island-river/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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