doc.fixit Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Was down there today for the first time for months, I couldn't see anything that is better than the old prom except maybe the road surface. The lost parking and the stupid coloured in bays where parking used to be are just beyond belief. Was there actually an initial plan designed for the benefit of the user or was it just a hotch potch of individual dreams lashed together and altered as it was built? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, 0bserver said: The 'snagging' list has been published on the FOI website today. It's certainly a long one at 39 pages. It won't allow me to link to it but it's dated 9th February. There's 381 separate defects marked as "CURRENT". An awful lot of them to do with drainage. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Roger Mexico said: There's 381 separate defects marked as "CURRENT". An awful lot of them to do with drainage. Yeah. But they will all be stuck and backing up in the system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: There's 381 separate defects marked as "CURRENT". An awful lot of them to do with drainage. Thats one serious list . Unless they fire a load of guys at it its not all getting done in 28 days. Snagging is a nightmare as just getting the right items to replace/repair takes ages then theres the actual carrying it out. Also loads of the defects are relative to drainage channels blocked and the likes. Your going too see diggers down there opening up areas mark my words . As OMOBONO said above the jet wash/ power wash isn't working in most cases according to a convo my friend had with one of the workers . Edited February 9, 2022 by Numbnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) As well as the snagging report, there has just appeared on FoI website the Road Safety Audit Reports that Tim Crookall mentioned. There's one from July 2021. Edited February 9, 2022 by Roger Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Thats one serious list . Unless they fire a load of guys at it its not all getting done in 28 days. Snagging is a nightmare as just getting the right items to replace/repair takes ages then theres the actual carrying it out. Also loads of the defects are relative to drainage channels blocked and the likes. Your going too see diggers down there opening up areas mark my words . As OMOBONO said above the jet wash/ power wash isn't working in most cases according to a convo my friend had with one of the workers . It's a tough gig trying to jet wash away concrete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 0bserver said: It's a tough gig trying to jet wash away concrete. Very true but guess that was the first and easiest solution thought off. I'm sure it would loosen up some but most not !. Glad I'm out of the game now as always got lumbered with snagging on sites due to abilities to do most jobs . And snagging with potentially the world and its wife clocking every move is a total nightmare . No hiding places on the Prom . Edited February 9, 2022 by Numbnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war baby Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Sea level rise over the next few decades is a matter of conjecture, perhaps a few feet, but nobody predicts a fall. Whatever the prom designers predicted when the plans were on the drawing board will probably be exceeded, it seems. In the end, the sea will have it back if it wants it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, war baby said: Sea level rise over the next few decades is a matter of conjecture, perhaps a few feet, but nobody predicts a fall. Whatever the prom designers predicted when the plans were on the drawing board will probably be exceeded, it seems. In the end, the sea will have it back if it wants it. This is why we will 'need' the DOI's next massively complicated project 'The Great (Sea) Wall of Douglas'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, 0bserver said: This is why we will 'need' the DOI's next massively complicated project 'The Great (Sea) Wall of Douglas'. Has any budget been approved for the 'Wall' ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Has any budget been approved for the 'Wall' ? It'll be the last £million that was left for the roads.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoTail Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Please remember, a promenade is a place for promenadeing! The actual promenade is a disgrace, no sign of any improvement to the promenade. As for the road which runs along side the promenade, after x years and y million pounds at least it is flat so the car does not bounce all over the place. I'm sure a simple resurface would have sorted that out. Whilst writing the lighting is crap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, NoTail said: Please remember, a promenade is a place for promenadeing! The actual promenade is a disgrace, no sign of any improvement to the promenade. As for the road which runs along side the promenade, after x years and y million pounds at least it is flat so the car does not bounce all over the place. I'm sure a simple resurface would have sorted that out. Whilst writing the lighting is crap. Overall a great sucess then !! And its still not finished if that day will ever come . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 A few days ago Crookall, responding to a question from Moorhouse about prom. pedestrian crossing safety, said in a Tynwald session that two safety audits had already been carried out. If you go to the IoM FoI site and search for "Douglas Promenade Safety Audits" you will find these documents. It's to much for me to analyse at this time of night, so I will leave that to the real ManxForum experts. I'm going to have a beer. (I congratulate the FoI people for responding in 3 working days - if only the DoI were so efficient) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Crookall when asked whether we would be following the new Highway Code recently implemented over the water was non committal he said not at the moment. The big issue with the new Highway Code are cyclists apparently they are to be encouraged to ride in the middle of the road. I cannot see that working on the promenade especially when the horse trams are running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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