Two-lane Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, 0bserver said: Did I also decipher they paid a shedload of money for 'interlace' track that now won't be used? These documents are tough to assimilate. This comment stood out: "As far as I am aware the requirement to be no more than 42mm is not in any standard, and was not mentioned, even when Ian ordered 4 sets of points for himself, in advance of the Promenade Contract." Which to me implies Longworth ordered 4 sets of points at 65mm groove - and now cannot be used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, 0bserver said: For me it just highlights the sheer ineptitude of the whole management. Did I also decipher they paid a shedload of money for 'interlace' track that now won't be used? Its time Mr Longtail was hauled in over the coals for this major cock up and waste of money , apparently he could not not accept or be be told there would be obvious problems with this system and the interlace track has carried on regardless ,and for whatever reason Nick Black didn't have the balls to stand up against him , this is our money these clowns are burning down there , the drains are still blocked along several parts of the prom and if we have a hot summer I wonder if there is any expansion joints in the welded rails to allow them to move without braking up the road surface again 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: The bit that got me is its clear having MEA running on the tracks has always been on the agenda . Again as lots of us said the heavier rails , which apparently were 'cheap' were actually part of the whole corrupt process . Having the MEA running on the prom was never in any plans or suggestions I read. Wonder is this also why we have a bigger gap between rails ? . I would say the trams look wider so maybe weve been had all along. Twats ! What are the Manx Electricity Authority going to run on the horse tram track? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Typo ...oops but sounds like they will be involved with this new disclosure. !! Edited February 18, 2022 by Numbnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Omobono said: I wonder if there is any expansion joints in the welded rails to allow them to move without braking up the road surface again Apparently , as part of the snagging , they have to grind out a channel along both sides of the both sets of rails !!! Good luck to the poor guys having to do that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Who would have guessed that would be a problem.......? I can't answer that question, but I can certainly tell you which bellsniff didn't guess it would be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said: This one might as well have been headed up “Dear Ian, here’s about 20 reasons why you’re a f**king bell-end” 2012 !!! First told it was likely not suitable . A clown surrounded by clowns . He has some hold on that department or as suggested he's a bully and thats how he gets his way . Mindblowing . Never mind , the tax payers will just pick up the shortfall..again ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 So the deal is: Most of the problems stem from Longworth wanting to run electric trams down the horse tram track, and cross traffic lanes halfway down the prom. Not only is the rail type for horse trams different to MER type rail, but the horse trams will need new sets of (non-historical) wheels to match the MER rail. Because the tram tracks now cross traffic lanes they need computer controlled traffic lights and god-knows what else to make this safe (presumably this is not necessary with the existing crossing near The Terminus because of grandfather rights). Here are two comments from these documents: From Alistair Burroughs > Subject: RE: Douglas Promenade ‐ Information Required Dear Ian, The brief for BSA was for the horse tram to be replaced on a like for like basis to a new alignment, and that there should be no scope creep. And this one from Longworth from IL Subject: RE: Douglas Promenade ‐ Information Required Dear Alistair My understanding was that the brief for the design of the promenade was that for whatever was built was future proofed so that it could operate the horse tram, MER and future light rail. So all this has come about because Longworth and other members of the DoI elite think that it is sensible to run a light railway system from The Terminus to the War Memorial. Unbelievable. A bunch of kids playing with toy train sets. And my guess is that you will not find one MHK criticising anyone involved. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, John Wright said: What are the Manx Electricity Authority going to run on the horse tram track? the MEA like running up big bills, anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Let us hope that one or two of the MHKs who frequent these boards are drawn to this information. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, John Wright said: What are the Manx Electricity Authority going to run on the horse tram track? Come on John. Don't be mean. 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, John Wright said: What are the Manx Electricity Authority going to run on the horse tram track? Nothing Proffitable no doubt? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Just now, Kopek said: Nothing Proffitable no doubt? Unimogs !n Although we will be glad of them today. Ill bet they wish they had a few more of them in Wales and Cornwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Let us hope that one or two of the MHKs who frequent these boards are drawn to this information. They might be drawn to it , but then duck down below the parapet even quicker . Only 6 weeks to get the trams up and running and with these disclosers its really not happening is it. Any bets on 4 years and counting ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Just now, Happier diner said: Unimogs !n Although we will be glad of them today. Ill bet they wish they had a few more of them in Wales and Cornwall. Yes....but will the Discovery fleet be out overseeing the work in these non-other-than-4wd-accessible locations? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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