WTF Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Kopek said: I doubt the planners would have evisioned this kind of shared space? i doubt we had planners , and i doubt who ever did the scribbling could envision anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Be interesting to see what legal basis, and local amendments have been promulgated for all these design features in the event of tickets being issued ! Probably a bit like the double yellow lines on Market Street were some years ago ..... none and unenforceable ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Went down bottom of Broadway yesterday. What an absolute mess. Not changed in weeks. I assume its waiting on someone to come up with a plan to extract themselves from the cock up the points front. Maybe a standoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, asitis said: Be interesting to see what legal basis, and local amendments have been promulgated for all these design features in the event of tickets being issued ! Probably a bit like the double yellow lines on Market Street were some years ago ..... none and unenforceable ! Ha Ha. I have said many times on here. Double yellow lines on the Island are merely a rough indication of where you might or might not want to park. Rarely enforced and mostly ignored. Waste of paint in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Safety review was apparently done last week and that's why they've suddenly coned/signed the boulders on Loch Prom and the Broadway Roundels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 hour ago, 0bserver said: Safety review was apparently done last week and that's why they've suddenly coned/signed the boulders on Loch Prom and the Broadway Roundels. Perhaps this is relevant: https://services.gov.im/freedom-of-information/search Search for "Douglas Promenade Safety Audits" There have already been two audits, the second published July 2021, and from this document: "3.2.4 Problem 3.10 Location: Central Promenade, east of Broadway junction. Summary: Unclear crossing provision and feature (believed to be sculpture) could mask pedestrians on crossing increasing risk of collision." "Recommendation Ensure features do not restrict intervisibility and provide pedestrian refuge feature with kerb upstands and keep left bollards" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 6:59 PM, Non-Believer said: They seem to have given up there today. They've chiselled out a square section of one of the blue panels leaving a square in the traffic lane about 2ft x 2ft that's about an inch deeper than the surrounding road surface. No warning signs to warn of this change left in place. The lane is coned off and closed again this afternoon whilst the blue panels are added to by new, darker shade of blue areas now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Youaintseenme said: Pulrose bridge really is something else. What on earth were they thinking when they came us with the road layout? Is that one massively wide cycle lane on the left as you go over ?? From Peel Road that is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 Just now, Youaintseenme said: I think it is. Absolute madness. It doesn’t go anywhere and is only about 100m long! Whats the point? Well if so its up with the one way only cycle lane in Ramsey and elsewear. Nuts. Why just why !!??? . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 24 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: Well if so its up with the one way only cycle lane in Ramsey and elsewear. Nuts. Why just why !!??? . It's all about "inclusion".... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Non-Believer said: It's all about "inclusion".... 😂 No it's about not understanding what cyclists need. I dont get it either. I dont get any of them. Maybe there is a plan and we are just not seeing it. The best cycle lane in the one that runs on the footpath on cooil road just past jacksons as you head upwards. There is a marked cycle lane on the path that ends......when then path ends at Robinsons. There isn't even a dropped kerb to get back on the road.Just about 50m of cycle lane that goes.....nowhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 The best cycle lane is one that has been designed to be adequate for its purpose? Maybe it's cheaper to do cycle lanes than more sub-structured roads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Two-lane said: Perhaps this is relevant: https://services.gov.im/freedom-of-information/search Search for "Douglas Promenade Safety Audits" There have already been two audits, the second published July 2021, and from this document: "3.2.4 Problem 3.10 Location: Central Promenade, east of Broadway junction. Summary: Unclear crossing provision and feature (believed to be sculpture) could mask pedestrians on crossing increasing risk of collision." "Recommendation Ensure features do not restrict intervisibility and provide pedestrian refuge feature with kerb upstands and keep left bollards" Interesting as they have got Keep Left signs there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Looks like garden walls aren’t going to be repaired for summer https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/work-to-sunken-gardens-could-be-delayed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Banker said: Looks like garden walls aren’t going to be repaired for summer https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/work-to-sunken-gardens-could-be-delayed/ in all of my lifetime there has been some damage done to the walls in the sunken gardens , following severe inshore gales ,it does not happen every winter , but to delay any work or not plant out the gardens for the summer seems to be a strange decision , the situation is not going to improve ,and when you reclaim land from the sea as you have done by extending the sea wall seaward , there are times when waves will wash over and cause damage , I think you just have to live with it and hope we don't get any NE gales for a few more years , very difficult to control nature ,and the cost or maintaining the gardens and the pleasure they bring to the public should be factored in to the overall cost of for example a rolled over annual repairs sinking fund could be established , and drawn down if there is future damage caused by severe weather 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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