monasqueen Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Shirley one of the problems with colour blindness is that red looks green? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 watched a very near miss at the bottom of broadway yesterday a UK registered van was coming down onto the promenade , the pelican crossing light was on green , and the driver thinking it was a traffic light went to turn right , at a considerable speed while a car going north on the promenade also at speed ,had to brake very hard to miss him , this place is an accident waiting to happen ,and so confusing if you are not local , I see they were back digging holes again in the new surface and had all the box drains opened up on the walkway side , I wonder who is paying for this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 40 minutes ago, Omobono said: watched a very near miss at the bottom of broadway yesterday a UK registered van was coming down onto the promenade , the pelican crossing light was on green , and the driver thinking it was a traffic light went to turn right , at a considerable speed while a car going north on the promenade also at speed ,had to brake very hard to miss him , this place is an accident waiting to happen ,and so confusing if you are not local , I see they were back digging holes again in the new surface and had all the box drains opened up on the walkway side , I wonder who is paying for this ? We seem to be waiting for quite a while. How long do we have to wait? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, Omobono said: watched a very near miss at the bottom of broadway yesterday a UK registered van was coming down onto the promenade , the pelican crossing light was on green , and the driver thinking it was a traffic light went to turn right , at a considerable speed while a car going north on the promenade also at speed ,had to brake very hard to miss him , this place is an accident waiting to happen ,and so confusing if you are not local , I see they were back digging holes again in the new surface and had all the box drains opened up on the walkway side , I wonder who is paying for this ? Apparently they have been at them all according to a friend with property down there. He's not so bothered as its not really affecting him , yet !! Auldyn vans down on these areas so presumably its snagging linked to issues showing up before final contract signed off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Omobono said: watched a very near miss at the bottom of broadway yesterday a UK registered van was coming down onto the promenade , the pelican crossing light was on green , and the driver thinking it was a traffic light went to turn right , at a considerable speed while a car going north on the promenade also at speed ,had to brake very hard to miss him , From some safety report, published at some time in the past: "3.2.3 Problem 3.09 Location: Central Promenade, Broadway junction. Summary: Inadequate facilities for vehicles and pedestrians on Central Promenade at Broadway. This junction currently operates as a signalised junction. The close proximity of the controlled crossing on Broadway, and lack of clear markings to indicate a roundabout may result in motorists failing to give-way, thereby increasing the risk for collision. Motorists turning onto the Central Promenade may believe they have absolute priority, increasing the likelihood of conflict" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Hedgehog Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I think they are about to test a horse tram again if anyone wants to see some derailment hilarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave Hedgehog said: I think they are about to test a horse tram again if anyone wants to see some derailment hilarity I’d rather polish my roof tiles thanks… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Dave Hedgehog said: I think they are about to test a horse tram again if anyone wants to see some derailment hilarity It was a horse-less tram. It was pulled by a pick-up truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Two-lane said: From some safety report, published at some time in the past: "3.2.3 Problem 3.09 Location: Central Promenade, Broadway junction. Summary: Inadequate facilities for vehicles and pedestrians on Central Promenade at Broadway. This junction currently operates as a signalised junction. The close proximity of the controlled crossing on Broadway, and lack of clear markings to indicate a roundabout may result in motorists failing to give-way, thereby increasing the risk for collision. Motorists turning onto the Central Promenade may believe they have absolute priority, increasing the likelihood of conflict" So is it a bloody roundabout or not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: So is it a bloody roundabout or not? It bloody well isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Just now, Two-lane said: It bloody well isn't. So why does the (I assume official) safety report suggest a lack of signage for a Roundabout then…….. when we’ve all been told the lack of signage is because it’s not a roundabout but an unmarked junction…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Roxanne said: I'll wait for the video to come out. Come on Amadeus, where were you when we really needed your Video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emesde Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 It seems that basically the DOI didn't know what they had commissioned, what was designed and built and really didn't care as long as it was "different". In terms of road safety they seem to have little concern about the new junctions, crossings. or road signage. I'm sure much of this will come back to bite them at some future date and I just hope that there won't be serious injuries because of their incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 8 hours ago, Two-lane said: From some safety report, published at some time in the past: "3.2.3 Problem 3.09 Location: Central Promenade, Broadway junction. Summary: Inadequate facilities for vehicles and pedestrians on Central Promenade at Broadway. This junction currently operates as a signalised junction. The close proximity of the controlled crossing on Broadway, and lack of clear markings to indicate a roundabout may result in motorists failing to give-way, thereby increasing the risk for collision. Motorists turning onto the Central Promenade may believe they have absolute priority, increasing the likelihood of conflict" Trouble with safety reports is the investigators always seem to go over the top. They think if they come along and say it's all ok the customer will think they didn't get value for money. In addition they are risk averse so they will find lots of faults and tell you all about them just in case there is an accident. I think there are plenty of more hazardous things on this island to spend more money on....but heyho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: So why does the (I assume official) safety report suggest a lack of signage for a Roundabout then…….. when we’ve all been told the lack of signage is because it’s not a roundabout but an unmarked junction…. The information I have comes from FoI request ID 2242239 (search for " promenade design "). The first report uses the word "roundel". It is clear from other data on the Internet, that "roundel" refers to an unmarked junction. The second report might be badly phrased - they might intend to mean that the pedestrian lights imply to a driver that it is a light controlled junction and that there is no need for a driver to be prepared to give way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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