ellanvannin2010 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, John Wright said: Is that for the combination of the tracks where the swerve across the prom and into single line working at Castle Mona Avenue or a crossover interchange at The Castle Mona between the double line working? I think they mean Castle Mona Avenue. Be a bit of digging up to do anything by the Castle Mona now. Seem to call it just Castle Mona for some reason Edited June 24, 2022 by ellanvannin2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, ellanvannin2010 said: I think they mean Castle Mona Avenue. Be a bit of digging up to do anything by the Castle Mona now Castle mona avenue end there has been a man with a welder working there most of the week , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Omobono said: looking at the area where the rails cross over there is a huge gap , and I sincerely hope its not such a size that it would trap a horses hoof or pull a shoe off , I watched someone cut a section out of the rails and weld a piece in , the other day but from my scant engineering experience the rails are made of cast steel which is hardened , the weld is made from much softer metal and I can see it wearing badly in a short length of time , it looks like they have been grinding the inner face of the rails ,possibly to get the trams wheels from binding on the angle , I was further heartened by someone telling be if there were vehicles other than cars parked on the promenade it will be too tight to get a vehicle passed between the parked vehicle and the tram , we await the relaunch and operation of the horse tram service with some interest I had a quick look today at the welding, some seems to be to where the rail is of different sections and they have welded a bit to stop there being a sudden 90 degree change in the groove width, not sure why the point rails could not have been the same section. Looks awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Because the whole set up is one big f$#&up. Do not forget the system is no longer a heritage rail system and will now have to conform to national rail regulations. Which I imagine will call for an inspection that it has to pass before a horse/electric tram is allowed to proceed with a single paying passenger. No wonder Longshite is jumping ship. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Does whatever new arrangement there is at Castle Mona Ave still involve walking the Horse from the front to the back of the Tram???In this new narrow roadway, is that a safe and acceptable way to proceed? I know it's been done for years at the south end of the Prom but we are much more aware these days of safety and not putting the Horses at unnecessary risk. Is there any arrangement that is 2020's acceptable??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellanvannin2010 Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kopek said: Does whatever new arrangement there is at Castle Mona Ave still involve walking the Horse from the front to the back of the Tram???In this new narrow roadway, is that a safe and acceptable way to proceed? I know it's been done for years at the south end of the Prom but we are much more aware these days of safety and not putting the Horses at unnecessary risk. Is there any arrangement that is 2020's acceptable??? There is no front and back on the tram🤣. Where they will take the horse from one end to the other is not on the roadway anyway although I can imagine people taking the wrong turn and driving on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 7 - 8 years ago we had a functioning, largely authentic, horse-drawn Victorian Tram system on Douglas Promenade, which ran its full length, end to end. It was one of our "Heritage Attractions". Then the biggest collection of muppets and bellends ever assembled under one Public Sector roof got involved in a hugely expensive (to the taxpayers) job justification and ego massaging process. Now we have what.....? Edited June 24, 2022 by Non-Believer extra bit 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: 7 - 8 years ago we had a functioning, largely authentic, horse-drawn Victorian Tram system on Douglas Promenade. Then the biggest collection of muppets and bellends ever assembled under one Public Sector roof got involved in a hugely expensive (to the taxpayers) job justification and ego massaging process. Now we have what.....? There's a nice new shed for the trams to live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: 7 - 8 years ago we had a functioning, largely authentic, horse-drawn Victorian Tram system on Douglas Promenade. Then the biggest collection of muppets and bellends ever assembled under one Public Sector roof got involved in a hugely expensive (to the taxpayers) job justification and ego massaging process. Now we have what.....? Something that will be talked about in decades to come how one department assisted by a bullying equally useless director of transport managed to design and implement the complete total cockup of what should have been a straightforward contract. We are now left with something that has been bodged to get even close to finish and indeed will it ever be. And they dont care ! Robinson was brought over to run the Incinerator and somehow managed to become Director of Highways who for the most part was watched over by Nick Black who came over initially as a weights and measure lacky . Mind blowing as clearly neither has or had a clue. God knows what the 'qualities' of others in DOI are !. Edited June 24, 2022 by Numbnuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: There's a nice new shed for the trams to live in. Turn it into a Museum of Ancient Transport and set the horses freeeeee!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 59 minutes ago, Kopek said: Does whatever new arrangement there is at Castle Mona Ave still involve walking the Horse from the front to the back of the Tram???In this new narrow roadway, is that a safe and acceptable way to proceed? I know it's been done for years at the south end of the Prom but we are much more aware these days of safety and not putting the Horses at unnecessary risk. Is there any arrangement that is 2020's acceptable??? Horse Tram turntable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 (edited) Jeeze, the prom is narrow enough without turntables!!! There's now a kerb in the middle of the road which does not follow the natural contour of the road direction? I thought this was a consideration of road design??? Edited June 24, 2022 by Kopek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bserver Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kopek said: Jeeze, the prom is narrow enough without turntables!!! There's now a kerb in the middle of the road which does not follow the natural contour of the road direction? I thought this was a consideration of road design??? You think they designed any of this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Numbnuts said: And they dont care ! Robinson was brought over to run the Incinerator and somehow managed to become Director of Highways who for the most part was watched over by Nick Black who came over initially as a weights and measure lacky . Mind blowing as clearly neither has or had a clue. God knows what the 'qualities' of others in DOI are !. That is staggering. Truly staggering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 '' God knows what the 'qualities' of others in DOI are !. '' Can only be better surely??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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