Numbnuts Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Augustus said: reigned in? They're not royalty, you know. Sorry lack of education...but you know what I meant right !? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Augustus said: reigned in? They're not royalty, you know. Ah, but do they know that. The way the DoI behaves, not only do they seem to think they're royalty, it's as if the Divine Right of Kings had never gone away. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulb Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 12:26 PM, John Wright said: Will the airport radar be signed off and fully functional before either of them? That "State of the art" MARCONI RADAR will be obsolete by the time either of those are completed i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, LightBulb said: That "State of the art" MARCONI RADAR will be obsolete by the time either of those are completed i think. Yay! Welcome back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 52 minutes ago, LightBulb said: On 11/21/2019 at 12:26 PM, John Wright said: Will the airport radar be signed off and fully functional before either of them? That "State of the art" MARCONI RADAR will be obsolete by the time either of those are completed i think. It's a good question as to what the current status is. In July 2017 I pointed to a reply to Tynwald where Harmer said it would be all sorted by the end of that month. But the following month the date had already slipped and Reynolds was talking about early September. Then, in March 2018, Bettison raised the matter at the Environment and Infrastructure Standing Committee: Quote Q61. Miss Bettison: Just picking up, obviously the radar thing has been rumbling on for some time and then last year you were able to make a positive statement about that and there was mention of a formal review of the operation, after which then the initial approval would be replaced with a final licence. I just wondered where we were up to with regard to that? Mrs Reynolds: We moved to temporary approval in operating our new radars. Whilst our old radars are still there, they are switched off, they are not in use. Some enhancements have been going on; the last ones were in December. So we have still not technically completed our project with a final licence, but I would hope that would be round about September time this year. May I just add to that? But it is a great radar for an island that has a mountain in the middle of it to be able to see the other side of the mountain and low-level is really excellent, when traditionally radars are by line of sight. So in terms of a piece of equipment, we are very happy with it. So while some sort of switchover had happened they still didn't expect approval till September 2018. What has happened in the year plus since heaven only knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: It's a good question as to what the current status is. In July 2017 I pointed to a reply to Tynwald where Harmer said it would be all sorted by the end of that month. But the following month the date had already slipped and Reynolds was talking about early September. Then, in March 2018, Bettison raised the matter at the Environment and Infrastructure Standing Committee: So while some sort of switchover had happened they still didn't expect approval till September 2018. What has happened in the year plus since heaven only knows. I'd asked this question to Chris Thomas in around March this year . From memory he said there would be an announcement in the next month or so . Still officially nothing 8 months later . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 7:38 PM, Numbnuts said: I'd asked this question to Chris Thomas in around March this year . From memory he said there would be an announcement in the next month or so . Still officially nothing 8 months later . The most sinister part of all this is, the staff were sworn to secrecy ! no one would answer any questions about it, the old installation was still doing the "day job" and the management did their utmost to keep the whole thing secret from the taxpayers! It is clear that anything which took the shenanigans this did to become operational was clearly a mismanaged procurement from the start ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 1:01 PM, Roger Mexico said: Ah, but do they know that. The way the DoI behaves, not only do they seem to think they're royalty, it's as if the Divine Right of Kings had never gone away. Bruce Hannay being the prime example in his day..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 hours ago, asitis said: The most sinister part of all this is, the staff were sworn to secrecy ! no one would answer any questions about it, the old installation was still doing the "day job" and the management did their utmost to keep the whole thing secret from the taxpayers! It is clear that anything which took the shenanigans this did to become operational was clearly a mismanaged procurement from the start ! Your so right as my friend , former senior worker down there, wouldn't ever say anything really and he's usually quite open..Yes sinister is the right word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 3 workers and one machine on the prom today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, doc.fixit said: 3 workers and one machine on the prom today. No when I went past the rail lads were there and I counted 11 of them. The rest I'm sure your right. I really don't get it tbh .guess it's worse than the info I was given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Numbnuts said: No when I went past the rail lads were there and I counted 11 of them. The rest I'm sure your right. I really don't get it tbh .guess it's worse than the info I was given It looks like they're rushing to finish the least needed part of the whole prom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Numbnuts said: No when I went past the rail lads were there and I counted 11 of them. The rest I'm sure your right. I really don't get it tbh .guess it's worse than the info I was given excuse me! That is what we saw when we drove through! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Which concern is actually doing the rail installation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxdaleliberationfront Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 58 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Which concern is actually doing the rail installation? Seems to be a hotch potch of Auldyn doing a little bit but then there's definitely been a UK contractor doing other bits. MyProm posted that had a specialist company over last week to file the rails down. Heard another rumour that the rail part of the scheme has gone "well over budget" with what they expect it will cost now. Wasn't the rail tracks budgeted at about £7m to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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