CharlieBrown Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 21 hours ago, Declan said: So what's the solution to this non-problem? Now that Garff includes Onchan it should be renamed Gareth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PmJ Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, CharlieBrown said: Now that Garff includes Onchan it should be renamed Gareth. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, PmJ said: Why? Every Gary I know lives in Onchan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Or Wayne and Garff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 6/9/2019 at 2:30 PM, Declan said: I don't really see the problem. Everybody on the Island is represented by two mhks and each constituency has roughly the same number of voters. That's fair. Fair? its bloody overkill by at least 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 And why do you have to live in a parish to be it’s MHK? Churchill was MP for Dundee at one point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: Fair? its bloody overkill by at least 50% Well that's a different question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Derek Flint said: And why do you have to live in a parish to be it’s MHK? Churchill was MP for Dundee at one point You don't. People should be free to vote for whoever they want. The argument here is the concept of Onchan as a distinct reality all of its own is compromised by part of it joining Garff for Tynwald votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Bobster Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Declan said: Or Wayne and Garff? Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 If you could vote for who you want instead of being hindered by constituency, likely there would be a few candidates with no votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, MrPB said: But then again you’re electing national politicians and not commissioners (that’s the theory anyway) so it shouldn’t matter that you pay rates to one body but vote in politicians in another place. But that’s where we all get confused in the IOM isn’t it? Equating the activity of Commissioners with national politicians. I’ll wager it’s being raised again now though in Onchan as there’s said to be a load of Onchan Commissioners with their eye on standing as MHK next time round - and it’s really going to piss on their chips if half of Onchan can’t actually vote for them. In fact thinking about it for a second this sort of de-link from the local authority might actually be quite a good way of ensuring that lazy granny farming local commissioners can’t seek to elevate themselves quite so easily. There are 7 commissioners. So which of the 'loads' of commissioners have said they are going to stand for the Keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 32 minutes ago, MrPB said: It would be wrong to name names but I’d heard at least 3 of the current lot were considering it. I imagine if you pick the three most egotistical ones of the lot it would be a fair bet on names. One or two already stood last time didn’t they and failed? This sort of split anywhere will always present challenges for commissioners who wish to stand for keys and I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing as they can’t waste ratepayers cash buying votes if half the people who live in their authority areas can’t actually vote for them in a national election anyway. Other than RC only one pother Commissioner stood last time: https://www.manxradio.com/election-2016/2016-keys-candidates/ And will probably be RC and just one other again next time around, may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rushen Spy Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 One vote, one parish, one MHK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Derek Flint said: And why do you have to live in a parish to be it’s MHK? Churchill was MP for Dundee at one point You don't, and we've had enough pompous buffoons in Manx politics without looking for examples elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 I know you don't but it is better to have some knowledge of the kind of person you are voting for and if you have never heard of them how do you judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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