Andy Onchan Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Yes, saw this the other day. Garff MHKs grumbling because it's not been released. H.Q. says it's because it needs to be seen by COMIN first. And they're still waiting for the special order of an indelible black marker with an extremely broad nib to arrive.. Before I posted the link I did a search on here under 'floods' and I was amazed to read that there are threads on the same subject going back to 2008 on various incidents. I can't recall who but someone said something along the lines of "if IOMG don't do the maintenance then I dread to think what will happen when a big one hits a populated area". Edited April 23, 2020 by Andy Onchan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatnonsence Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Be assured the report on the flooding in Laxey will be seen by COMIN then presented to Tynwald on the last sitting before the summer recess along with all other embarrassing and incompetent business conducted by our government. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 20 hours ago, Andy Onchan said: Before I posted the link I did a search on here under 'floods' and I was amazed to read that there are threads on the same subject going back to 2008 on various incidents. I can't recall who but someone said something along the lines of "if IOMG don't do the maintenance then I dread to think what will happen when a big one hits a populated area". I suspect that it was all in the name of "The Savings". Which included the restructuring of the old DOT into the out of control behemoth that is the DOI. The disassembly of the DOT's long-time specialist gangs and teams with the specific knowledge of their respective areas and duties. Classic ivory tower management. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecobob Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Phil Gawne telling us all to start trimming our own hedges as they didn’t have the money to do it any more. Trouble is, it didn’t stop with the hedges. It was keeping the waterways clear, looking after and cutting the trees and removing dead wood, repairing and replacing Victorian walls and on and on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Though we had enough money to carry on paying Phil Gawne. And his entourage of "management". And subsequently his farmer mates. Edited April 24, 2020 by Non-Believer Extra bit 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Though we had enough money to carry on paying Phil Gawne. And his entourage of "management". And subsequently his farmer mates. And don't forget that road....... because you have to use up your budget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: And don't forget that road....... because you have to use up your budget. This is what happens when you assimilate specific, specialised skills, teams and departments into a big, thoroughly badly managed amorphous blob. By people utterly detached from the situation on the ground concerned only with the bottom line on paper and their own jobs. Those skillsets and the work that requires them are then lost to the "bigger picture". But it's not saving money. It's storing up inconvenience and considerable expense every time. And it then comes back and bites you on the arse every time. Doesn't matter whether it's your car, your house, equipment or National infrastructure. Neglect costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Laxey Flooding? Brexit? Come on guys, all that has been forgotten/swept under the carpet. Hey, we got ourselves a pandemic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJ Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, gettafa said: Laxey Flooding? Brexit? Come on guys, all that has been forgotten/swept under the carpet. Hey, we got ourselves a pandemic Not when you've got Daphne Caine on the loose. When does she move to Syria? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettafa Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Well, when does Syria move to her more like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SulbyStraighter Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 1:18 PM, gettafa said: Laxey Flooding? Brexit? Come on guys, all that has been forgotten/swept under the carpet. Hey, we got ourselves a pandemic Oooh I remember Brexit. Those were the good old days I tell you. Men were men back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 The report is out. Pretty long read. https://mmo.aiircdn.com/61/5ed0db1d1fd3e.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: The report is out. Pretty long read. https://mmo.aiircdn.com/61/5ed0db1d1fd3e.pdf Section 3.2.2 says it all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Section 3.2.2 says it all... As does 3.3.4. Too much emphasis on nice-to-have capital projects (in general) rather than maintaining what is already there. This would probably apply to many other infrastructure related maintenance schedules. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Only £0.5M available for maintenance....including the inevitable consultancy fees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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