woolley Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: So despite BoJo being compromised to the Russians, and the latest layer in a shit sandwich which has seen austerity, cuts and division, you think Corbyn is the worse option of the two? He isn't compromised to the Russians. He simply has donations from wealthy bods a few of whom happen to be Russian. Are you silly enough to believe that this obliges him do Putin's bidding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: So despite BoJo being compromised to the Russians, and the latest layer in a shit sandwich which has seen austerity, cuts and division, you think Corbyn is the worse option of the two? Yes. The 'shit sandwich' you describe was a direct result of the global financial crash that happened under the last Labour government (not that they could have done a thing about it) and that Tory policy has been trying to address for the past 9 years. I like Corbyn's Europe policy, and don't mind at all that he's not nailing his flag to the mast - I think he's dead right to offer a further referendum now the electorate understand the practical implications of Brexit more than they did 3 years ago. But when he heads up a manifesto that promises 80+ Billion of spending, and then announces another 50 Billion (uncosted) to deal with pension issues initiated by the last Labour (or tory-lite if you like) government then I don't think he can be trusted financially, which will hurt everyone, not just billionaires who own multi-national companies like they make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, woolley said: He isn't compromised to the Russians. He simply has donations from wealthy bods a few of whom happen to be rich. Are you silly enough to believe that this obliges him do Putin's bidding? If you had read the article I posted (clearly you haven't), you would see the extent to which the donations are and who from. You would have also read that the has been attending "functions" held by Russians. But you wont read the article because it challenges your perception of the bumbling traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, wrighty said: ...which will hurt everyone, not just billionaires who own multi-national companies like they make out. The way I have read it, it only is going to "hurt" if you earn more than £82k a year, which is 5% of the countries earners (top 5% earn more than £73k I think I read somewhere). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: If you had read the article I posted (clearly you haven't), you would see the extent to which the donations are and who from. You would have also read that the has been attending "functions" held by Russians. But you wont read the article because it challenges your perception of the bumbling traitor. I had a look but you posted the meat of it above anyway. They are trying to do a Trump job on Johnson by saying he's run by the Russians. Do you believe that he is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: The way I have read it, it only is going to "hurt" if you earn more than £82k a year, which is 5% of the countries earners (top 5% earn more than £73k I think I read somewhere). If you believe that nonsense then you really will believe anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, woolley said: I had a look but you posted the meat of it above anyway. They are trying to do a Trump job on Johnson by saying he's run by the Russians. Do you believe that he is? "A Trump job", you mean trying to keep the highest office in the country honest and legal? Party donations are a matter of legal record, so are you saying the report lied? Why is he stopping the report from coming out if he has nothing to hide? Your slavish refusal to acknowledge this is worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIchard Britten Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, woolley said: If you believe that nonsense then you really will believe anything. That isn't refuting what I said, just empty hand waving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RIchard Britten Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, quilp said: Your point being? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: That isn't refuting what I said, just empty hand waving. If you really didn't understand, I am saying that if you believe all of Corbyn's promises can be paid for by making only the top 5% pay "a little more", then you are fiscally illiterate. That is refuting what you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, RIchard Britten said: "A Trump job", you mean trying to keep the highest office in the country honest and legal? Party donations are a matter of legal record, so are you saying the report lied? Why is he stopping the report from coming out if he has nothing to hide? Your slavish refusal to acknowledge this is worrying. I suppose because the hard of thinking will jump to the same conclusion as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, RIchard Britten said: Exactly the response from the exact poster I was expecting. What did you think of the article? You think it would be OK for Momentum to be running the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, woolley said: If you really didn't understand, I am saying that if you believe all of Corbyn's promises can be paid for by making only the top 5% pay "a little more", then you are fiscally illiterate. That is refuting what you said. This is what Corbyn's plan amounts to. Looks like the Britbot didn't watch it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman1980 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, wrighty said: the global financial crash that happened under the last Labour government (not that they could have done a thing about it) and that Tory policy has been trying to address for the past 9 years Which party set the groundwork for that financial crash in the UK? As someone who works in the NHS (or did do at least) what is your view on the allegations that the Tory party are planning on selling off more of the NHS or even as going as far as replicating the US healthcare system? What about the pledge for 50,000 new nurses over 10 (!!!) years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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