Speckled Frost Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4720863.stm Seems a rather sudden decision by the IRA. I wonder how much the current climate has had on their decision? They are clearly getting no sympathy anymore, particularly in the US. The Northern Bank robbery and the murder of Robert McCartney were PR disasters but it seems the terrorist threat elsewhere has kind of deadened the impact of the IRA tactics. Good news though at a pretty tense time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lectro Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I don't think it has been a sudden decision at all - since the ceasefire in 1997 they've gradually been manouvering to a position whereby they could get to this point without alienating their members and supporters. Yes it is good news. Hopefully now the other splinter groups from both sides will follow suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Alledegely, the Northern bank robbery and the 26 million that was stolen, was planned as a pension fund for ex-members, i suppose those in thier 30's, its been a way of life for them. I sincerely hope that this is the final hurdle and all the parties can start talking again. Unfortunally with the old faces of Adams, McGuiness and Paisley around, its going to be difficult building trust. I think the McCartney sisters have had a major impact of late, they stood up to the organisation, like no one ever has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I think the McCartney sisters have had a major impact of late, they stood up to the organisation, like no one ever has. Umm, you need to go read up on what's happened to them since the first flush of publicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I think the McCartney sisters have had a major impact of late, they stood up to the organisation, like no one ever has. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Umm, you need to go read up on what's happened to them since the first flush of publicity. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Almost inevitable, that threats would follow thier stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Uhh, I'm not talking about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Uhh, I'm not talking about that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well why not enlighten me then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I don't have another lifetime to take on that sized task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Uhh, I'm not talking about that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well why not enlighten me then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You could start with this http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/fea...sp?story=654215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I don't have another lifetime to take on that sized task. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Strange, as you so often ask others to provide information to back up what they say. Ans why bother getting involved in this topic? Looking to wind someone up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonty Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Dream on. They are not giving up. They are too deeply entrenched in the criminal world, and in the psyche of both North and South. Revenge killings, punishment beatings, pipe bombs, drugs dealing, cattle and cigarette smuggling. They will not stop. You read it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Frost Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 I agree Jonty but to carry that on they will form splinter groups and certainly won't be a political force any longer. And for this reason, I think the bombing campaign will end but individual shootings will no doubt continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 Uhh, I'm not talking about that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well why not enlighten me then? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You could start with this http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/fea...sp?story=654215 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks. I was aware of the information,but i felt Ans was implying something more sinister had happened. Very sad that these circumstances have arisen for the family, but its going to take a hell of a long time for attitudes to change within the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-rhymes Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I would like to see what excuses Mr Paisley comes up with not to talk to the republicans now. I would also like to see Mr Adams and crew talk to the police about the McCartney murder and the Northern Bank raid. As if... I simply can't see any of the hard liners backing down about the issue of unification. However perhaps time will heal things. Most people I know over there are bored of the arguing and just seem to be getting on with life. I think the real hope lies with the teenagers & 20 somethings who seem to more interested in partying than fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonan3 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 A conflict/dispute with its roots lying hundreds of years in the past obviously isn't going to be sorted out overnight. But perhaps the fact that one of the parties involved in it has taken at least a tentative step towards finding a political, rather a violent, solution is cause for a small celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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