b4mbi Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 340,000 p.a. ? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/visit-isle-of-man-announces-three-year-plan/ Given we currently get 40,000 for TT, 15,000 from cruise, and say 10,000 for fom, this just seems like a wildly over optimistic target to me. Can't see our current levels of tourism being much over 100,000 total per annum, but I've not researched.. Another job justification scheme from dfe me thinks... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, b4mbi said: 340,000 p.a. ? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/visit-isle-of-man-announces-three-year-plan/ Given we currently get 40,000 for TT, 15,000 from cruise, and say 10,000 for fom, this just seems like a wildly over optimistic target to me. It doesn’t say by when ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Numbers will be manipulated. We'll easilly get 340,000. Infact I'd wager that we'll hit 500,000 given the governments ability to pick numbers out of thin air. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Drug Tourism. They'll absolutely flock here to sample the same sort of gear that whoever produced these figures is on. Edited February 25, 2020 by Non-Believer Typo 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4mbi Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 30 minutes ago, thesultanofsheight said: It doesn’t say by when ... 3 year plan?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Down Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 43 minutes ago, b4mbi said: 340,000 p.a. ? https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/visit-isle-of-man-announces-three-year-plan/ Given we currently get 40,000 for TT, 15,000 from cruise, and say 10,000 for fom, this just seems like a wildly over optimistic target to me. Can't see our current levels of tourism being much over 100,000 total per annum, but I've not researched.. Another job justification scheme from dfe me thinks... so these clever boys and girls are going to triple the tourists visiting the Island then. Outstanding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) The key is tourist days - is the 340k the tourist-day figure - cruise passengers staying at best one day would appear to deposit little money on Island even given the reputed eye-watering costs of their excursions (probably most of which goes to the shipping company) and any expensive harbour provision especially for them seems little more than an ego trip for certain MHKs. TT fans many of whom camp at least generally stay a week and apart from camper vans do at least buy provisions locally and home-stay deposits some money fairly widely. In the 30s the Island was pushing itself in the upmarket golfing holidays but such courses as exist now could not compete. 300 walkers, each staying a week with say a 30 week season would give over 50,000 tourist days, other outdoor pursuits could provide maybe another 40,000 - such a market should be grown as unlike the TT it imposes few costs on residents or the environment. The short season high number TT model was predicated on an existing transport mechanism catering for a mass tourist market - unless Brexit + CO2 reductions make non-UK holidays extremely expensive such mass tourism will never return. Edited February 25, 2020 by Frances 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir nige Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 iom centre parcs...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Some of the Scottish Isles do really well. It’s wholly achievable and I think the likes of Corona may well help. subsidies for travel would be money well spent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holte End Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 If manx radio population covered is to 70 trillion people, a mere 340,000 tourist is nothing. If every passenger on a cruise ship, even the ones that need mobility scooters can get on a cruise ship tender boat to get ashore. Visit Isle of Man will easily reach this ridiculous low target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 No no no no no. IOM cruise ship tenders won't allow mobility scooters as they may move during the journey. We'll need a £20m cruise ship dock to make £130k a year from cruise ships. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Ronrico Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Holte End said: If manx radio population covered is to 70 trillion people, a mere 340,000 tourist is nothing. Maybe now we know why all these new housing estates are being zoned and built. We’re due an AirBnB boom from these hundreds of thousands of new tourists! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Not a chance sadly. This announcement goes in the same bin as the big increase that was to happen justifying the airport runway extension. Only way your going to increase visitor numbers in any quantity is subsidies on travel costs .. That I've always thought is a win win but the powers that be clearly don't. Also something not mentioned is where they are going to stay ! We have enough buses that's for sure !!!! Edited February 25, 2020 by Numbnuts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 It looks to me like they have reverse-engineered the numbers. The Tynwald Brains Trust has a get together in a very very small room and admits to itself that the CS/PS pension requirement could end up dragging their substantial taxpayer-funded nest eggs down with it. And they can't have that! So they work out the £shortfall. They then take their fantasy strictly for public consumption only £number of how much each tourist profits the island by per week. So it's just divide the pension £shortfall by the fantasy £profit per visitor and the answer is 340,000. It's easy when you know how.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Derek Flint said: I think the likes of Corona may well help. A few beers always do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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