Passing Time Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, HeliX said: No there aren't. Take your blinkers off sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Take your blinkers off sunshine Provide some evidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Passing Time said: You can also lay the blame firmly at the feet of government. It is too easy to claim benefits these days. Yes there are familiies in genuine need but there a large number of people rinsing the system As every Daily Mail / Express / Sun / Telegraph reader knows those on benefits are lazy, workshy, scroungers who are claiming due to deliberate lifestyle choices like being born into poverty.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Bandits said: HiVibes view is just plain spiteful. This generation don’t want to work for anything. They just want it on a plate. Why can’t I have the free houses by grandparents bought? Only it wasn’t free they were earning a few quid a week and the £5000 they borrowed was a huge sum. Most people want to work hard to better the pathway their parents took. Not to sit there with their hand out claiming they’ve been ripped off and where my free stuff. I don't know anyone who wants everything for nothing. I do know people who want to be fairly compensated for the work they produce, but they're not. I know people who would like to receive decent public services for the taxes they pay, but they're not. I know people who'd like to be able to own their house on two professional incomes, but they can't. I know people who would like to be able to have one parent stay at home with the kids, like many of their own parents and grandparents did, but they can't afford to keep the lights on if they do. And these situations are deteriorating, not improving. The cost of living is nuts and getting worse. House prices are nuts and getting worse. Pay is now getting worse in real terms due to inflation. Perhaps some of the ire towards boomers is that many of them, when these points are raised, won't offer suggestions or vote for candidates who want to do something about it, they'll instead just shout "You're all snowflakes, I had to walk to school and back and it was uphill both ways and there was frost on the inside of the windows." 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, HeliX said: I don't know anyone who wants everything for nothing. I do know people who want to be fairly compensated for the work they produce, but they're not. I know people who would like to receive decent public services for the taxes they pay, but they're not. I know people who'd like to be able to own their house on two professional incomes, but they can't. I know people who would like to be able to have one parent stay at home with the kids, like many of their own parents and grandparents did, but they can't afford to keep the lights on if they do. And these situations are deteriorating, not improving. The cost of living is nuts and getting worse. House prices are nuts and getting worse. Pay is now getting worse in real terms due to inflation. Perhaps some of the ire towards boomers is that many of them, when these points are raised, won't offer suggestions or vote for candidates who want to do something about it, they'll instead just shout "You're all snowflakes, I had to walk to school and back and it was uphill both ways and there was frost on the inside of the windows." And of course they did 'real work' lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, HeliX said: .....and there was frost on the inside of the windows." And that bit was 100% true, in my case. That's not a myth. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, P.K. said: As every Daily Mail / Express / Sun / Telegraph reader knows those on benefits are lazy, workshy, scroungers who are claiming due to deliberate lifestyle choices like being born into poverty.... Pretty much like Guardian readers like to twist things to suit themselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 49 minutes ago, HeliX said: Provide some evidence? Read the local papers and check out benefit fraudsters to start with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 19 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: And that bit was 100% true, in my case. That's not a myth. Nobody is saying it's a myth. It was true for me too and I'm early 30s, but I don't bloody go on about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Read the local papers and check out benefit fraudsters to start with A handful of fraudsters, who get caught, is not evidence of widespread benefits fraud. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, HeliX said: Nobody is saying it's a myth. It was true for me too and I'm early 30s, but I don't bloody go on about it! TBF Helix, you did mention it first. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Gladys said: TBF Helix, you did mention it first. 🙂 I had to walk uphill to and from my keyboard to post it too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiVibes Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, HeliX said: I had to walk uphill to and from my keyboard to post it too. Kids these days don't even know what a keyboard is, too busy sat at home on playstation living the high life on benefits... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, Passing Time said: Pretty much like Guardian readers like to twist things to suit themselves I don't have to twist things. I simply post up the relevant story from the paper. Then those who feel it's "twisted" or whatever can then produce evidence of their own to the contrary. I'm sure you can find lots of pieces in the Daily Mail / Express / Sun / Telegraph that supports your views on benefit scroungers etc. I'm not going to bother because I know it's mostly rabble-rousing right wing bollox.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, HeliX said: A handful of fraudsters, who get caught, is not evidence of widespread benefits fraud. Handful are those caught - quite a few more getting away with it... for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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