2112 Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bandits said: If I was on the Pride committee I wouldn’t have signed that off. There is no apology in there. Two Trustees of the Isle of Pride, and founders and committee members, Clare Barber MHK Minister of DEFA and Jane Poole Wilson MHK, Minister of Justice and Home Affairs - Gary Roberts political boss. It sounds to me an apology written and approved by a committee to tick boxes, please people, garner publicity especially when the Pride event is next weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 2112 said: Two Trustees of the Isle of Pride, and founders and committee members, Clare Barber MHK Minister of DEFA and Jane Poole Wilson MHK, Minister of Justice and Home Affairs - Gary Roberts political boss. It sounds to me an apology written and approved by a committee to tick boxes, please people, garner publicity especially when the Pride event is next weekend. Roberts walks away from this with little credibility. He blamed everyone else and basically didn’t apologize at all. Edited August 7, 2022 by Bandits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Bandits said: If I was on the Pride committee I wouldn’t have signed that off. There is no apology in there. I think that’s a little churlish. As I previously said whatever he wrote wouldn’t have satisfied everyone. He is also still in situ and I don’t know but presumably if he gave an absolutely unqualified apology ( without say for example mentioning the law as it stood at the time) he could open up the possibility of legal action against the force. Which may be a good thing but not something he in his role should be responsible for. I would imagine that this letter was run past the lawyers before it was issued. Perhaps JW could comment on this aspect? Edited August 7, 2022 by The Voice of Reason Last sentence second para added 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, The Voice of Reason said: I think that’s a little churlish. As I previously said whatever he wrote wouldn’t have satisfied everyone. Have you read the letter? It’s a very poor attempt at an apology. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestboy Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Bandits said: Roberts walks away from this with little credibility. He blamed everyone else and basically didn’t apologize at all. Rubbish. What’s your agenda here? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bandits said: Have you read the letter? It’s a very poor attempt at an apology. Yes I’ve read it. Like I say above he may have had to issue it under certain constraints. But it does show regret and I don’t think all the condemnation is entirely appropriate. Edited August 7, 2022 by The Voice of Reason Added a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, forestboy said: Rubbish. What’s your agenda here? None other than to point out that after 5 very long pages he doesn’t seem to actually apologize for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bandits said: None other than to point out that after 5 very long pages he doesn’t seem to actually apologize for anything. “ this apology is for that institutionalized approach which caused harm to some people” to be found on the last page of Gary Robert’s letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandits Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: “ this apology is for that institutionalized approach which caused harm to some people” to be found on the last page of Gary Robert’s letter. It’s not an apology though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hissingsid Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 He was not in charge when these houndings were taking place the ones who were have probably croaked by now. It is a blot on our Nation’s history born out of ignorance and wickedness and to think it was not that long ago is shameful but all the apologies in the world cannot undo the actions that caused such pain and distress. Whatever he said was never going to be enough. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopek Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I think WE are trying to forget that there was a level of general support for the police action at the time??? The apology needs to come from US rather than a particular sector of our representatives??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, hissingsid said: Whatever he said was never going to be enough. What would be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliX Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, hampsterkahn said: What would be ? What JW suggested a few pages back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampsterkahn Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 “Things were different then” That has some truth, but it should never be uttered without at least some reflection. Not all of 70’s society was happily immersed in the tedious innuendo and sniggers of the “Carry On “ and Benny Hill variety and overtly homophobic. For many it didn’t merit a view or opinion. Which in way was more serious, as the problem was ignorance. I was guilty of that. Only looking back, I feel I failed some of my friends at that time, simply by not understanding them. I failed to recognise them fully ,to listen, and to talk about what was important to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 If any of the politicos are around from that time, it is they who should be issuing a full and heartfelt apology, as it is they who set the agenda into law ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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