Isle of Pride

[thommo2010]

I went down but left straight away when the beer tent only took card. I only brought cash 

[Roger Mexico]

4 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

I went down but left straight away when the beer tent only took card. I only brought cash 

Well judging by the placards above, they clearly didn't want to take coppers.

[AOR]

3 hours ago, Max Power said:

Lot's of silly FB comments, including one little jerk who can't wait for all old people to be dead so that bigotry will finally be a thing of the past! Good luck with that mate!

If that particular little jerk could wave a wand and all the old people (I dunno, say everyone over 45 for arguments sake) suddenly died, I would guarantee they would find something else to so nastily kick against and be self-offended. It's what they do.

Edited August 13, 2022 by AOR

[Roger Mexico]

3 hours ago, Max Power said:

Lot's of silly FB comments, including one little jerk who can't wait for all old people to be dead so that bigotry will finally be a thing of the past! Good luck with that mate!

That's the trouble with old people these days.  They're such snowflakes, always complaining at the slightest thing that doesn't fit in with their feelings and looking for reasons to be offended!

(Seriously, you're getting upset at someone saying something stupid on Facebook?).

[Max Power]

5 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

That's the trouble with old people these days.  They're such snowflakes, always complaining at the slightest thing that doesn't fit in with their feelings and looking for reasons to be offended!

(Seriously, you're getting upset at someone saying something stupid on Facebook?).

I'm not upset, just beginning to feel old!

[AOR]

1 hour ago, Gladys said:

Nothing was enforced.  The sexual act is irrelevant and was not the point of it.  

A bit different than some of the antics of UK similar events then.

[Gladys]

10 minutes ago, AOR said:

A bit different than some of the antics of UK similar events then.

No idea about that.  Post a link.

It seems very simple to me, sexuality isn't important.  But it has been for too long.  

So what Pride is about is saying "yes, that is what I am, but is it really any different to you as a person?"

[The Voice of Reason]

55 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

Well judging by the placards above, they clearly didn't want to take coppers.

Take note.

[The Voice of Reason]

1 hour ago, Amadeus said:

Some argue BDSM should be on the flag, too. All a bit fluid these days.

Anyroads, I found this quite open hostility towards police a bit odd. They were on the float leading the parade. I know local history has been rocky in this regard, but still. Weren’t we supposed to be past that? 

I find it more than a bit odd. I find these placards quite offensive. After campaigning for decades for inclusivity, to want to exclude one particular group seems a bit of an own goal.

Especially when most are looking for reconciliation after past events.

Shame on them.

[Gladys]

7 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

I find it more than a bit odd. I find these placards quite offensive. After campaigning for decades for inclusivity, to want to exclude one particular group seems a bit of an own goal.

Especially when most are looking for reconciliation after past events.

Shame on them.

If some of the stories I have heard are true,  shame on the police in previous years.

Have to say, the police that were there today were great and there was a bit of banter. 

But, really, there has been an apology so perhaps move on?  Unless, of course, you are a family member of someone who cannot move on.

It was a shameful period that we still had the legislation, and dubious methods to enforce it.  It actually wasn't that long ago.

[AOR]

  

13 hours ago, Gladys said:

No idea about that.  Post a link.

Try that there google, google images. 

 

Edited August 14, 2022 by AOR

[HeliX]

26 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

I find it more than a bit odd. I find these placards quite offensive. After campaigning for decades for inclusivity, to want to exclude one particular group seems a bit of an own goal.

Especially when most are looking for reconciliation after past events.

Shame on them.

The police aren't a societal group.

[The Voice of Reason]

34 minutes ago, Gladys said:

If some of the stories I have heard are true,  shame on the police in previous years.

Have to say, the police that were there today were great and there was a bit of banter. 

But, really, there has been an apology so perhaps move on?  Unless, of course, you are a family member of someone who cannot move on.

It was a shameful period that we still had the legislation, and dubious methods to enforce it.  It actually wasn't that long ago.

There is no doubt that the police did act shamefully in those dark times.

But I think you have to move on to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past.

It seems that Alan Shea is willing to draw a line under this so who are we to decide otherwise ( unless of course as you say you have family members, friends that were driven to desperate measures).

It must also be remembered that the majority of coppers in the IOM police force were not even born when all this was happening. So to exclude them from celebrating gay rights ( societal group or not) is to cause division. No doubt amongst the police contingent today there were gay and lesbian officers.

So those two ladies holding up the placards ( who equally don’t look like they were born anytime around Alan’s showing at Tynwald) need to have a word with themselves. They did the LGBT + community no favours.

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by The Voice of Reason

[thommo2010]

4 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

There is no doubt that the police did act shamefully in those dark times.

But I think you have to move on to avoid repeating the mistakes of the past.

It seems that Alan Shea is willing to draw a line under this so who are we to decide otherwise ( unless of course as you say you have family members, friends that were driven to desperate measures).

It must also be remembered that the majority of coppers in the IOM police force were not even born when all this was happening. So to exclude them from celebrating gay rights ( societal group or not) is to cause division. No doubt amongst the police contingent today there were gay and lesbian officers.

So those two ladies holding up the placards ( who equally don’t look like they were born anytime around Alan’s showing at Tynwald) need to have a word with themselves. They did the LGBT + community no favours.

 

I saw 3 uniformed police officers today that are gay and 3 who were there enjoying themselves.  Quite frankly those people with the signs need to grow up

[HeliX]

8 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said:

It must also be remembered that the majority of coppers in the IOM police force were not even born when all this was happening. So to exclude them from celebrating gay rights ( societal group or not) is to cause division. No doubt amongst the police contingent today there were gay and lesbian officers.

So those two ladies holding up the placards ( who equally don’t look like they were born anytime around Alan’s showing at Tynwald) need to have a word with themselves. They did the LGBT + community no favours.

Nobody is stopping individuals who are police officers from attending (nor has anyone stopped the police force as an organisation this year either).

Historic problems with policing aren't the only problems with policing.