quilp Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 https://capx.co/notes-from-the-plague-inside-italys-quarantine/?omhide=true&utm_source=CapX+briefing&utm_campaign=e56702a3d2-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_06_09_COPY_02&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b5017135a0-e56702a3d2-241877005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecobob Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I have a friend in Italy. She took a video of her local newspaper for me to see. Normally the inside page has maybe half a page of obituaries. Yesterday there were twelve pages just of obituaries, mainly the elderly. She was sad to see us making jokes about it and told me it was no joke for them. This is what lockdown looks like. Be careful what you wish for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, ecobob said: I have a friend in Italy. She took a video of her local newspaper for me to see. Normally the inside page has maybe half a page of obituaries. Yesterday there were twelve pages just of obituaries, mainly the elderly. She was sad to see us making jokes about it and told me it was no joke for them. This is what lockdown looks like. Be careful what you wish for. I posted a very similar video in the coronavirus thread in general chat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, ecobob said: She was sad to see us making jokes about it and told me it was no joke for them. This is what lockdown looks like. Be careful what you wish for. This explains it better than me. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/observer/awfully-funny Even when you know a raft of potential shit is heading your way (and it is, we are currently only 3 weeks behind Italy), humour helps us survive. I have parents in their 80s that could easily be taken out by this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 It doesn't help when they warn of 8m hospitalised and then have to backtrack and say it's a worse case scenario. I have no faith in them anyway but even those who do must be wondering about all the mixed messages.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just been chatting online to a mate off-island who does business in Italy with regular trips down there. From what he describes it's nothing to be light or casual about. The symptoms are "dry-land drowning". Lungs fill with fluid and you asphyxiate in your bed. Often in a couple of days. Not nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, P.K. said: I have no faith in them anyway but even those who do must be wondering about all the mixed messages.... But as each day passes, informatively the wheat outweighs the chaff, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Just been chatting online to a mate off-island who does business in Italy with regular trips down there. From what he describes it's nothing to be light or casual about. The symptoms are "dry-land drowning". Lungs fill with fluid and you asphyxiate in your bed. Often in a couple of days. Not nice. If you notice...the 'humour' is mostly about the governments approach/indecision and people panic buying. Not the disease and what it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: If you notice...the 'humour' is mostly about the governments approach/indecision and people panic buying. Not the disease and what it does. I was referring to the effects of the illness AT. Fear not, I fully appreciate what's being directed at the herd and the great and good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Surely not a lack of kit! Frontline NHS staff are at risk of dying from Covid-19 after the protective gear requirements for health workers treating those infected were downgraded last week, doctors and nurses have warned. Hospital staff caring for the growing number of those seriously ill with the disease also fear that they could pass the infection on to other patients after catching it at work because of poor protection. Doctors who are dealing most closely with Covid-19 patients – A&E medics, anaesthetists and specialists in acute medicine and intensive care – are most worried. A doctor in an infectious diseases ward of a major UK hospital, who is treating patients with Covid-19, said: “I am terrified. I am seriously considering whether I can keep working as a doctor.” Shortages of personal protective equipment (PPE) appear to be widespread across the health service and include GP practices as well as hospitals. Doctors are angry about Public Health England’s new advice issued last week which reduces the level of the PPE that staff need to wear. Medics believe the change in advice was driven by the lack of equipment rather than a change in the clinical evidence about the risks from the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.K. Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just confirmed on Newsnight. A lack of PPE. The words of "the minister" have not been reassuring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 This will not end until the virologists and geneticists make a breakthrough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freggyragh Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) GP practices got 2 masks per practice, hospitals have been told not to wear PPE (hazmat) gear. The U.K. government has had weeks to prepare, seems they were believing #sirnigefacts and entirely ignorant of events in the rest of the world. I’m disappointed that the IOM Gov are so enthralled to Westminster that they couldn’t think for themselves. They are flying blind because they haven’t tested people or treated the virus seriously - and that is completely down to following the journalist clowns running the U.K. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/im-losing-faith-in-the-leadership-a-doctors-story-coronavirus Edited March 16, 2020 by Freggyragh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 hours ago, P.K. said: Just watched the Press Conference. Talk about a U-turn. Just a progression of the existing policy. It was always going to be a process. Where is the U-turn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolley Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 hours ago, quilp said: Couldn't you see anything positive in what the totally amoral, narcissistic, serial philanderer and inveterate liar said? What about the content rather than the dance steps? The amusing thing is that had Corbyn won the election, the policy, which is led by government scientists in conversation with the wider scientific community, would have been precisely the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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