BoJo taken into hospital

[woolley]

Any one of us MAY be put on a ventilator. Playing with words. 

[mojomonkey]

Not sure what points people are trying to score here. I wish anyone (regardless of their colour, political views, religious views, etc.) who contracts the virus a speedy recovery.

[Chinahand]

Downing Street slams Russian 'disinformation' after reports Boris Johnson is on a ventilator for coronavirus

[the stinking enigma]

There's sod all wrong with him take it from me. And chinahand that's rather a biased site you are linking to there. Stories on how china disinformation led to more uk deaths but no stories on boris disinformation leading to more deaths. Laughable do keep it up old boy.

[woolley]

1 hour ago, the stinking enigma said:

There's sod all wrong with him take it from me. And chinahand that's rather a biased site you are linking to there. Stories on how china disinformation led to more uk deaths but no stories on boris disinformation leading to more deaths. Laughable do keep it up old boy.

Herd immunity will probably be the only weapon against it in the short term anyway.

[pongo]

23 minutes ago, woolley said:

Herd immunity will probably be the only weapon against it in the short term anyway.

Not coming into contact with it will be the best way of not getting it until there is a vaccine. That's why the lockdown is so important.

[woolley]

1 minute ago, pongo said:

Not coming into contact with it will be the best way of not getting it until there is a vaccine. That's why the lockdown is so important.

For a year or eighteen months? Not gonna happen.

[pongo]

1 minute ago, woolley said:

For a year or eighteen months? Not gonna happen.

There is no reason not to keep the lockdown in place fairly tightly. Obviously over time there can be some degree of flexibility - perhaps around antibody testing and some sort of ID carding. And possibly the Army could be used in a way which the civilian police would not be comfortable with.

And a place like the IOM should be able to open up internally whilst keeping external borders tightly shut.

Anything else would be irresponsible. Many of the economic arguments are entirely bogus.

[P.K.]

Just now, woolley said:

For a year or eighteen months? Not gonna happen.

You can't possibly know that.

I trust Bozo got a slighter better reception into the hospital than this recent effort which had him lying through his teeth as per

 

[Rog]

1 minute ago, P.K. said:

You can't possibly know that.

I trust Bozo got a slighter better reception into the hospital than this recent effort which had him lying through his teeth as per

 

That was subsequently shown to be a put up job.

[John Wright]

9 minutes ago, Rog said:

That was subsequently shown to be a put up job.

No, it was claimed to be by the usual hysterical right wing rags. It wasn’t.

[Rog]

14 minutes ago, John Wright said:

No, it was claimed to be by the usual hysterical right wing rags. It wasn’t.

Well Omar Salem,  the mouthy parent just happened to be there?  OK possibly so, but the fact that he just happens to be the founder of a pressure  group demanding that the NHS is rebuilt sorta puts into question if it was purely serendipitous and when it turns out he is an occasional newspaper columnist of less than unbiased newspapers it does raise a whole lot of questions. Then there's the almost perfect recording of his every word.  Hard to see the hidden microphone though.  No  proof other than the quality of the sound track.

[woolley]

51 minutes ago, pongo said:

There is no reason not to keep the lockdown in place fairly tightly. Obviously over time there can be some degree of flexibility - perhaps around antibody testing and some sort of ID carding. And possibly the Army could be used in a way which the civilian police would not be comfortable with.

And a place like the IOM should be able to open up internally whilst keeping external borders tightly shut.

Anything else would be irresponsible. Many of the economic arguments are entirely bogus.

Well, there are the economic arguments, but the main problem would be societal damage. As people increasingly get cabin fever there will be growing mental issues, and it will become a pressure cooker ready to burst. More and more people over time simply would not put up with it and demand a progressive relaxation of the emergency measures. By then there should be considerable herd immunity around the country and hopefully the peak in hospital admissions will have been passed so that there will be a steady flow of further hospitalisations rather than a surge.

[woolley]

30 minutes ago, John Wright said:

No, it was claimed to be by the usual hysterical right wing rags. It wasn’t.

It was at least very dubious the way it was blown up, although Johnson did deal with it badly. He isn't good with when put on the spot and called to deal with something in the moment. Nobody emerged with credit.

[John Wright]

6 minutes ago, Rog said:

Well Omar Salem,  the mouthy parent just happened to be there?  OK possibly so, but the fact that he just happens to be the founder of a pressure  group demanding that the NHS is rebuilt sorta puts into question if it was purely serendipitous and when it turns out he is an occasional newspaper columnist of less than unbiased newspapers it does raise a whole lot of questions. Then there's the almost perfect recording of his every word.  Hard to see the hidden microphone though.  No  proof other than the quality of the sound track.

Always willing to see a conspiracy rather than a coincidence?

. His daughter was seriously ill. Johnson turned up. He had a verbal go. Johnson had his usual coterie of minders and journos. Of course it was picked up.

May turned up when I was in the middle of an 11 week stay in Royal Liverpool. Unfortunately she bypassed my side ward, or she might have been subjected to the same. She also had minders and journos in tow.