Jarndyce Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Both will have just taken advice from the relevant people at the time. Suggesting that it’s their own opinion is a bit silly. I wasn't suggesting that it was solely their own opinion: the "relevant people" might have been traffic "experts" (see Two-lane's comment below) rather than hospital staff. However, I suspect lip service will have been given to discussing it with the hospital operational staff - after all, the Minister's in charge of that area! Why discuss anything with underlings? 16 minutes ago, Two-lane said: I would expect them to go along with whatever the traffic experts said in their "three-letter-acronym with numbers" report. Edited January 7 by Jarndyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_manx Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Afaik there are / were plans for a restaurant as well. Cafe during day / restaurant at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-lane Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 23 minutes ago, CrazyDave said: Both will have just taken advice from the relevant people at the time. Suggesting that it’s their own opinion is a bit silly. The original application had access via the hospital roads, and had approval from the DoI Highways Division. There is now the necessity for an alternative access road. In the planning documents (admittedly I do not have the patience to read every document) I did not see a technical reference for the need for the change. The only reference to the change is in that letter quoted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, Banker said: Have you been in , it is in a terrible state and the whole building looks like it’s about to fall down ! The sausage baps etc smell good but I’m not entirely convinced that they’re cooked in premises that meet required standards. You’re the sort of person with nothing else better to do, so why don’t you dob in Strang Stores to the Food Hygiene Inspectors, based upon your hunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 If anyone has any doubt of the wisdom of not-using the hospital road take a trip up there and see how daft it would be, Laurie Hooper is quite right in his stance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, 2112 said: You’re the sort of person with nothing else better to do, so why don’t you dob in Strang Stores to the Food Hygiene Inspectors, based upon your hunch. I’ve been in , have you ? I just wouldn’t buy any food from there but I’ve got newspapers. The place does look as if it’s unfit , just go and look . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyDave Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Banker said: I’ve been in , have you ? I just wouldn’t buy any food from there but I’ve got newspapers. The place does look as if it’s unfit , just go and look . Are you now suggestion environmental health don’t regularly check the place out like they are legally required to. Fo in and ask to see their latest certificate. Guaranteed it won’t be an issue. The food is very good by the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, Jarndyce said: Howard says yes; Lawrie says no. I wonder if either of them discussed their responses with anyone operational at the hospital before giving (or not giving) their permission? Howard is a self confessed millionaire let him put a few bob in , it will teach hime to keep his mouth shut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moghrey Mie Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Omobono said: Howard is a self confessed millionaire let him put a few bob in , it will teach hime to keep his mouth shut Was there any discussion about Hospice using private roads when they were given permission to build? I think Donald Gelling gave them the land to build on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 minute ago, Moghrey Mie said: Was there any discussion about Hospice using private roads when they were given permission to build? I think Donald Gelling gave them the land to build on. The cancer centre place is suffering from the same clipboard wielding jobs worth's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Moghrey Mie said: Was there any discussion about Hospice using private roads when they were given permission to build? I think Donald Gelling gave them the land to build on. I think the Hospice is tucked away at the back, using access which isnt likely to cause issues to other service users. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, finlo said: The cancer centre place is suffering from the same clipboard wielding jobs worth's! Whilst I agree with your overall assessment, in the example of the Roundhouse, if users are driving in via Balloates Road, based upon the building size, and both businesses and service providers coupled with opening hours. I would argue that the entrance couldn’t support vehicle access. There is a strong likelihood of a traffic collision or clipped wing mirrors. If service users drive in via the Main Entrance, it’s going to put an unnecessary strain on both traffic and possible parking problems. As someone who attends the hospital and also Palatine Practice, I see the roads even before the Roundhouse are congested - it isn’t helped either by the work carried out at Grainagh Court, and also it’s an alternative entrance for hospital users and hospital staff. There is also a charity which is based next to the Roundhouse, which also has a cafe. It uses the same entrance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omobono Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 it quite clearly should have had its own entrance , looking at the size and possible impact on the existing highways infrastructure , it looks like the planners were asleep , 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Buggane Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I am afraid I come out as agreeing with Hooperman on this occasion (much as it pains me), as a user of Palatine and various clinics at Grainagh Court coupled with the access to A&E the area is already congested. The roads are a narrow mishmash of junctions and not designed in any way to hold the present amount of traffic, add into the fact that if. Big if, it is the resounding success Braddan Commissioner's hope(pray) it will be how long before people start using the parking that is already in extremely short supply. This is already happening at the Palatine Centre with people using it for the Hospital so I would imagine that it will quickly fill up with Roundhouse users when there own car park fills up and it is three steps less for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Flint Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 So, is this place basically unusable until they build a new road? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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