JessTickle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So who is here then 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 hours ago, 2112 said: Sadly it’s like that at most UK hospitals. Also most UK hospitals are creative at revenue generating, eg shops and retail outlets. Perhaps Nobles could create extra space and rent it out to generate additional revenue? Where’s this extra space coming from at hospital? Renal teams & others are working in private patients wing as no room anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, Banker said: Where’s this extra space coming from at hospital? Renal teams & others are working in private patients wing as no room anywhere else. 3 hours ago, 2112 said: Sadly it’s like that at most UK hospitals. Also most UK hospitals are creative at revenue generating, eg shops and retail outlets. Perhaps Nobles could create extra space and rent it out to generate additional revenue? There’s plenty of space for shops, kiosks, cafes, etc. you might have to be inventive, what there isn’t is the footfall to generate sufficient income to sustain anything much, for very long. Look at the fuss there was about how much the hospital catering ran at a loss, then the god squad had a tenancy of the foyer cafe and shop, they didn’t renew. Wonder how much Thie Bee, and the cafe in Mannanan Court, cost the tax payers nowadays. Especially if you factor in a notional rent, heat light & power, wages, raw ingredients, equipment. Mannanan Court does nice butties, cuppas, and cakes. Few hours a day. For 40 patients, visitors and staff. Last time I meandered past, on my way to a tribunal, there were three staff on duty at 09.30 and no customers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 So they won’t get too many on that bus 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Lamb Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 38 minutes ago, John Wright said: There’s plenty of space for shops, kiosks, cafes, etc. you might have to be inventive, what there isn’t is the footfall to generate sufficient income to sustain anything much, for very long. Look at the fuss there was about how much the hospital catering ran at a loss, then the god squad had a tenancy of the foyer cafe and shop, they didn’t renew. Wonder how much Thie Bee, and the cafe in Mannanan Court, cost the tax payers nowadays. Especially if you factor in a notional rent, heat light & power, wages, raw ingredients, equipment. Mannanan Court does nice butties, cuppas, and cakes. Few hours a day. For 40 patients, visitors and staff. Last time I meandered past, on my way to a tribunal, there were three staff on duty at 09.30 and no customers. Isn't the MC cafe run by the Friends of Ballamona charity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Not according to their web site, The Ballamona Association for Mental Health lists its activities as: Purchase and installation of an inpatient relaxation and calming room Equipment such as specialist beds, chairs, therapeutic and entertainment equipment for residential areas Mobile sensory units for therapy and relaxation Funding for inpatient and community special activities and seasonal events Daily newspapers for hospital wards Garden equipment and water features in the hospital and community Upkeep and care of the aviary in the grounds of Nobles Hospital Beekeeping equipment at Brunswick Gardens A fish tank and artwork project for the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service Special equipment and household essentials for those in need but with limited funds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarndyce Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Anyone at the meeting wearing their Manx Forums T-shirt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessTickle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 29 minutes ago, Jarndyce said: Anyone at the meeting wearing their Manx Forums T-shirt? No just branded pitch forks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FANDL Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) It will be interesting to watch the feedback from this one. Lots of the Douglas public meeting people seemed to think that they had just been shut down and then further shut down on social media. It looks like almost the whole meeting so far was Jessopp justifying Jessopp spending £10M on a facility that now has no purpose at all. If that doesn’t see him off as a politician nobody in Braddan that voted for then nothing will. Believe their most credible commissioner John Quaye didn’t even turn up. So there can’t even be much support for Jessopp. Even from the commissioners. Edited March 11 by FANDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha-acid Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 19 minutes ago, FANDL said: It will be interesting to watch the feedback from this one. Lots of the Douglas public meeting people seemed to think that they had just been shut down and then further shut down on social media. It looks like almost the whole meeting so far was Jessopp justifying Jessopp spending £10M on a facility that now has no purpose at all. If that doesn’t see him off as a politician nobody in Braddan that voted for then nothing will. Believe their most credible commissioner John Quaye didn’t even turn up. So there can’t even be much support for Jessopp. So you obviously were not there, so why comment on facts you know nothing about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANDL Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 17 minutes ago, alpha-acid said: So you obviously were not there, so why comment on facts you know nothing about There’s livestreams and pictures posted elsewhere that allows folk to follow. Looks like the audience was limited due lack of to ease of access issues. Mr Quaye was clearly and categorically not there as the video footage proves. Edited March 11 by FANDL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred the shred Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 He was the one on MR that threatened to remove any barriers the Manx Health Trust or DOI positioned or is there two Quaye’s on the Board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessTickle Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) I am a bit tired to give a full de brief as it went on for 2 3/4 hours. John Quay was most definitely not there - they gave his apologies. Andrew Jessop did not seem to grasp (care?) that they should have reconsidered or stopped once the project costings had started spiral. He smirked repeatedly and this was commented on from the floor quite a bit. He came across as rather arrogant and superior. The business plan had been obtained via FOI and remained unchanged between planning (?) applications despite a price rise of £1M He advised the cost to run the place for 12 months is £1M which includes interest of around £380k. Income (when fully operational) will not cover anywhere near the cost to run - but AJ repeatedly said that this was ok as they were a not for profit organisation The difference between income and expenditure and the fact the costs to run it weren't event being met were repeatedly pointed out, but fell on deaf ears. It was confirmed that the 37% raise in rates related solely to the interest that was due on the loan. The accounts for last year have not been signed off by the auditor - AJ stated this was due to a going concern issue. There was much blame shifting regarding valuations and that no local estate agent was insured to value anything over £4m so they were having to find someone from across to do it. He stated that they had only found out the auditor wouldn't sign off in the last couple of weeks. He then confirmed that the accounts should have been filed by 31 October so were considerably late. They have an extension till 2 April to submit - he didn't seem confident that this deadline would be met or have an answer as to what their plan was if they didn't. Much talk about the building not being worth what it had cost, but this was the same with some flats they had built............. Edited March 11 by JessTickle 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passing Time Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 9 hours ago, Banker said: See Palatine are introducing disc parking to stop misuse by hospital visitors & roundhouse users, maybe hospital should introduce similar policy That should work given that they are normally well over 30 minutes late on their appointments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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