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1 hour ago, winnie said:

Why not test every one as they enter. Request that they isolate for a couple of days until the results come through, then test after day 4. Most people would happily pay £100 not to isolate for 14 day.

Don't understand the problem doing this.

Howie was asked this today and sad we monitor other islands and if they have something that works we will consider it etc. why can't IOM come up with something different like Jersey & Guernsey are doing?

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Who the feck wants to go to Guernsey and bump into several hundred people from here they know - all day and every day?

This just seems a stupid risk we don't need to take, for little economic benefit - let's just wait till that common area the UK - where all kinds of airline staff will be in and out of - starts rolling out vaccines. If people were arsed about Guernsey, we'd already have lots of flights going there.

It's asking for trouble at a dangerous stage, when we've just jump-started the local economy.

 

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6 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Who the feck wants to go to Guernsey and bump into several hundred people from here they know - all day and every day?

This just seems a stupid risk we don't need to take, for little economic benefit - let's just wait till that common area the UK - where all kinds of airline staff will be in and out of - starts rolling out vaccines. If people were arsed about Guernsey, we'd already have lots of flights going there.

It's asking for trouble at a dangerous stage, when we've just jump-started the local economy.

 

How so if it's two islands that don't have the infection?

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59 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Who the feck wants to go to Guernsey and bump into several hundred people from here they know - all day and every day?

This just seems a stupid risk we don't need to take, for little economic benefit - let's just wait till that common area the UK - where all kinds of airline staff will be in and out of - starts rolling out vaccines. If people were arsed about Guernsey, we'd already have lots of flights going there.

It's asking for trouble at a dangerous stage, when we've just jump-started the local economy.

 

Seems like overly paranoid nonsense right there.

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It's not paranoid at all. We're incredibly lucky to be here. Now that the pandemic has been running a while we're beginning to see some patterns, and the more data you have the more accurate the patterns can be. Here's some stats sourced from worldometres.

Diagnosed global cases 10329918

Official Global Deaths 506068

Death to cases 4.9%

US: 2652334/128557 4.9%

Brazil:1352078/57774 4.2%

Spain 296050/28346 9.5%

Italy 240236/34744 14.4%

UK 311965/43575 14%

Now you can say that Europe is over the peak of their infections for now and those rates to cases are pretty high, while those countries in the Americas are a little while behind and those rates are likely to rise. I accept that there are likely to be a large number of people who will have had the virus with no symptoms and probably not tested, its a weird one, but those are big rates of death to diagnosed cases. 

Still, its just a bit of flu that only affects the old and fat so nothing to worry about I guess. Open the borders, lets push on.

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57 minutes ago, The Dog's Dangly Bits said:

Seems like overly paranoid nonsense right there.

There’s an awful lot of paranoid nonsense spouted on here!!

isle of man will be isolated soon as other crown dependencies move on. Airlines will have planes allocated by the time we want them back. City already gone, how many more routes will we lose 

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5 minutes ago, Golfer said:

There’s an awful lot of paranoid nonsense spouted on here!!

isle of man will be isolated soon as other crown dependencies move on. Airlines will have planes allocated by the time we want them back. City already gone, how many more routes will we lose 

As long as you find some way to leave there's no problem

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51 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

It's not paranoid at all. We're incredibly lucky to be here. Now that the pandemic has been running a while we're beginning to see some patterns, and the more data you have the more accurate the patterns can be. Here's some stats sourced from worldometres.

Diagnosed global cases 10329918

Official Global Deaths 506068

Death to cases 4.9%

US: 2652334/128557 4.9%

Brazil:1352078/57774 4.2%

Spain 296050/28346 9.5%

Italy 240236/34744 14.4%

UK 311965/43575 14%

Now you can say that Europe is over the peak of their infections for now and those rates to cases are pretty high, while those countries in the Americas are a little while behind and those rates are likely to rise. I accept that there are likely to be a large number of people who will have had the virus with no symptoms and probably not tested, its a weird one, but those are big rates of death to diagnosed cases. 

Still, its just a bit of flu that only affects the old and fat so nothing to worry about I guess. Open the borders, lets push on.

You're are being a bit overly dramatic there.  Aren't death to diagnosed cases actually deaths to hospitalised cases?

It doesn't kill 14% of people that get it.

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57 minutes ago, TheTeapot said:

Oh hang on, what about all those states in the US that pushed on with reopenings for the economy? 'We can't let the cure be worse than the disease'. Yeah, well done, you idiots.

 

Plenty of places in the US are fine.  When you have nearly 300m people the numbers look big regardless.

I would agree though that certain areas are not in great shape.

There is a tipping point though which needs to be weighed off in relation to lock down and the impacts. 

The percentage of population dying (anywhere) is still minute.

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