Out of the blue Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, Banker said: IOM has no plan Jersey & Guernsey have implemented their plans to open borders and economies so we will be even more isolated. thought Skelly had a plan to attract great new businesses? The biggest obstacle to effective decision making is the forthcoming general election. The main voting demographic I imagine largely corresponds with the more fearful in society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesultanofsheight Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Out of the blue said: I agree with your sentiments, as I am also frustrated with watching the slow motion car crash that is unfolding due to the politicisation of the situation, the continued fear being peddled by the media and frankly the mission creep that has led to the goal of flattening the curve becoming total elimination of the virus. Until the media decides to change direction and set a new agenda we will just have to suck it up I am afraid. Enjoy the fact that we can live in a semblance of normality and let this thing run its course. The pendulum will swing and people will realise that the cure is indeed going to be much worse than the disease, but we are not there yet. The tipping point was the end of July and everyone missed it. The longer this drags on the worse it’s going to get. The UK government needs to do what we did and rapidly cut furlough and other schemes to give workers and employers a jolt of reality and then re-configure if unemployment skyrockets. But it can’t keep people in a bubble forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Out of the blue said: The biggest obstacle to effective decision making is the forthcoming general election. The main voting demographic I imagine largely corresponds with the more fearful in society. Guernsey have an election later this year and they are taking decisive actions and they have plenty of the pitchfork brigade there as well but they are considering the whole population and economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 So fucking move. It is ABSOLUTELY INSANE to complain about the situation we are in when you simply open your eyes and look elsewhere. I do agree though, that there doesn't appear to be much of a plan. But if you don't have a plan, things can't go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: So fucking move. It is ABSOLUTELY INSANE to complain about the situation we are in when you simply open your eyes and look elsewhere. I do agree though, that there doesn't appear to be much of a plan. But if you don't have a plan, things can't go wrong. Things must be bad if even you acknowledge there's no plan ! You must be either a civil servant or retired who doesn't need the economy to pick up. meanwhile unemployment remains high and will get worse unlike Jersey where unemployment has fallen for last 11 weeks. https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/islands-unemployment-rate-remains-at-2-6/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Banker said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/border-restrictions-have-significant-impact-on-tourism-sector/ skelly saying the bleeding obvious!! I was just about to post the very same thing. Where has he been for the last 5 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Just now, Banker said: You must be either a civil servant or retired who doesn't need the economy to pick up. Hahaha yeah, must be. The local economy seems pretty good to me, loads of work on, even turned some down, everyone I know in similar work is busy, houses are selling, planning applications are flying in, did you see how many people went to the Peel festival or the Nobles Park thing? Even H&B pubs have customers! And as the manx economy is based on financial stuff and gambling, and thats all basically online, I'd imagine these sectors which I generally know little about are probably doing pretty well too. I think you're mad Banker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 But there is a plan: https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/travel-advice/borders-framework/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Hahaha yeah, must be. The local economy seems pretty good to me, loads of work on, even turned some down, everyone I know in similar work is busy, houses are selling, planning applications are flying in, did you see how many people went to the Peel festival or the Nobles Park thing? Even H&B pubs have customers! And as the manx economy is based on financial stuff and gambling, and thats all basically online, I'd imagine these sectors which I generally know little about are probably doing pretty well too. I think you're mad Banker. Tell that to the very large number of unemployed which will be increasing as support schemes end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: But there is a plan: https://covid19.gov.im/general-information/travel-advice/borders-framework/ No meat on the bones though Andy. A lot of piffle but no substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: No meat on the bones though Andy. A lot of piffle but no substance. I don't necessarily disagree as we already seem to have activated most of Level 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 40 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: So fucking move. It is ABSOLUTELY INSANE to complain about the situation we are in when you simply open your eyes and look elsewhere. I do agree though, that there doesn't appear to be much of a plan. But if you don't have a plan, things can't go wrong. Hey, listen. I've enjoyed the last few weeks as much as anybody. Been out and about all over the Island enjoying our freedoms and wonderful weather, it's been fantastic. This is about real long term damage being done to the economy, which unfortunately many do not appear to grasp. A few pubs & restaurants doing well because they have a captive audience who are unable to travel without penalty might give those of lesser intelligence a false impression that all is well & will remain so. The stark reality will begin soon & it will get tough, very tough. Thankfully there is an opportunity or window to lessen the burden or negate the losses if brave decisions are taken in the next couple of weeks. We need politicians who can see past the fictitious doomsday scenario where they believe everyone is going to die of this thing and have the minerals to lead and enact a border reopening plan that allows unrestricted movement with a testing regime in place to mitigate risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Banker said: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/border-restrictions-have-significant-impact-on-tourism-sector/ skelly saying the bleeding obvious!! 300,000? Really? Sounds very optimistic to me. Are these more "Skelly Figures"? And does this figure arise from returning residents being classed as tourists too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Have Jersey published any information on how much money their testing regime is costing? How many extra staff they've had to take on? Anything like that? Because it must be a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah 01 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nom de plume said: they’ll not be re-elected next year if we open At this rate, with ours and the UK economy totally trashed, they'll not be re-elected if we DON'T open. Edited August 17, 2020 by Utah 01 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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