The Old Git Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, TheTeapot said: Didn't watch the briefing cos I've got better things to be doing, did I miss anything hugely exciting? Or just the same shit defensiveness from our leaders and crap questions from our press corp? The Guernsey one was more interesting. They had the vaccine delivered yesterday. Howie doesn’t know when we’ll get ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, The Old Git said: The Guernsey one was more interesting. They had the vaccine delivered yesterday. Howie doesn’t know when we’ll get ours. Yes they’re starting next week plus Jersey also got theirs earlier this week, Howie seemed to be saying we’re not starting unless they guarantee us the second jab consignment but others are just getting on with it. https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/12/11/vaccinations-to-start-next-week/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, Banker said: Yes they’re starting next week plus Jersey also got theirs earlier this week, Howie seemed to be saying we’re not starting unless they guarantee us the second jab consignment but others are just getting on with it. https://guernseypress.com/news/2020/12/11/vaccinations-to-start-next-week/ Howies approach seems the more reasonable. Half a job done is no job done at all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Escape Artist said: As a further disappointments to the Stalinist minions on this forum, Ashford confirms that there will be no immunity passport or travel conditional on vaccine status in this isle. Even Ashford has a basic-level understanding of some of the issues. Here is the link: https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/advocate-raises-concerns-over-covid-immunity-passports In the meantime, in the US an FDA advisory board called Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee has recommend the approval of Pfizer’s Covid vaccine for emergency use; vote which went through with 17 in favour, 4 against and 1 abstention. The FDA is not bound to follow such advice, but usually it does. I mention this to point out that consensus on this particular vaccine is not unanimous among government scientists. Ashford understands nothing. He's just repeating what he's read from his masters in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Its quite obvious the crown dependencies are taking their own routes as directed from their uk masters. Similar to their niche tax todging schemes. No point having everyone doing the same thing. Edited December 11, 2020 by the stinking enigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Howies approach seems the more reasonable. Half a job done is no job done at all. And he should know ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54832563 This report is fascinating - there are those who will understand it more than me - but it seems we still have some ways to go before we have it totally under control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-chief-medical-officers-statement-on-the-self-isolation-period-11-december-2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Howies approach seems the more reasonable. Half a job done is no job done at all. Being cautious seems to have served us well thus far 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 UK "R" rate is now stated as having risen from 0.8 to 1.0, which would appear to be concurrent with the lifting of the more stringent lockdown conditions. With lots of Xmas social mixing about to take place too. How many times is this now? As soon as they take the pressure off, the virus reasserts itself. Wales is now another prime example, two weeks on. Pubs, bars and restaurants are now going to be allowed to reopen in Scotland and N. Ireland. On recent past, that's just inviting another lockdown in short order, surely? The only answer to this is surely the vaccination, everything else appears to be short term success with rapid reversion when restrictions are lifted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Loos like being a traditional british christmas. Big blow out on credit then deal with the consequences in jan and feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Escape Artist said: As a further disappointments to the Stalinist minions on this forum, Ashford confirms that there will be no immunity passport or travel conditional on vaccine status in this isle. Even Ashford has a basic-level understanding of some of the issues. Well you anointed me as Josef himself yesterday, and I've never said it was a good idea - quite the opposite. The enthusiasts for such a Get Out of Jail Free Card tend to be the ones who think they should be allowed to go anywhere and do anything and we should never have any restrictions anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, John Wright said: Can be either, and meddlesome, as well "Who will rid me?" ejaculated the good and wise King Howard I . "I shall, my liege. I shall strike out this carbuncle, forever and her contraptions and soothful knowledge." riposted the good and loyal Sir David of Ashford, "for we have had an unwelcome sufficiency of her wild imaginings, witchery, treachery and twittery utterances." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gladys said: "Who will rid me?" ejaculated the good and wise King Howard I . "I shall, my liege. I shall strike out this carbuncle, forever and her contraptions and soothful knowledge." riposted the good and loyal Sir David of Ashford, "for we have had an unwelcome sufficiency of her wild imaginings, witchery, treachery and twittery utterances." More likely to be the discomfited DHSC management hierarchy than Al Lewis lookalike CDM and Bar. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypeas Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 So did I hear correctly? 14 day isolation means 99% chance of not passing the bug on. 10 days isolation means 98% chance of not passing the bug on? .....and we therefore stay at 14 days ! Really ?? Are we not going to lower the drawbridge until the UK has vaccinated everyone then? Gonna be a long 2021 too by the looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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