asitis Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Roger Mexico said: This is real facepalm stuff. We're in a situation that looks like it was caused by failure to test everyone co-isolating together. So what do they do? So someone could have caught Covid at Truth, developed a mild, non-symptomatic case, passed it on to others in their family, but then cleared it from their system by Day 13. And the others would be released into the community to unknowingly spread it, reassured that they were all clear. Lessons never seem to be learnt - even if they were only given last month. I haven't seen lessons learned in 30 years so to expect them to be learned in a month is stretching things !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Ah, but they've got an MBE to hide behind you know. They must know best. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, manxst said: captain wanxman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 13 hours ago, Gladys said: Suppose that really is the question: what is the plan for the future and what weapons do we have to deploy? I see US gun shops are running out of guns prior to the innaugaration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just been watching some coverage from the state capital of Virginia, Richmond. Looked initially like the National Guard were on security duty. They weren't, it's local militia groups, all uniformed and armed to the teeth protesting about their gun rights and Trump's "unfair election result". 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: I see US gun shops are running out of guns prior to the innaugaration. Is Raynor's still open? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, piebaps said: Look, its clear that for whatever reason (good or bad) they're not going to use Saint Rachel's services. Can we please move on? This shit is getting as boring and repetitive as fucking Guernsey. If it was a personal relationship then i'd agree, let it go. But it isn't. Just because howie and ashie don't want to answer specific questions then i don't. Edited January 19, 2021 by the stinking enigma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, Max Power said: Is Raynor's still open? No but The Bon Ton is still selling paraffin from open bins at the back...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manx Yeller Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 53 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: This is real facepalm stuff. We're in a situation that looks like it was caused by failure to test everyone co-isolating together. So what do they do? So someone could have caught Covid at Truth, developed a mild, non-symptomatic case, passed it on to others in their family, but then cleared it from their system by Day 13. And the others would be released into the community to unknowingly spread it, reassured that they were all clear. Lessons never seem to be learnt - even if they were only given last month. I asked this a few pages ago and I think it was wrighty who replied saying that PCR would still be positive at day 13 in this scenario even if they'd beaten the infection. However, to my mind, they should have adopted the "travelling" testing regime and tested all the household at day 8/9 and again at day 13... After all, these are people who we knew were in contact with a covid carrier whereas we don't know that with travellers so would seem to me to be a known higher risk. Better to have to do a few more tests than to have to extend lockdown... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Howard knows this how exactly? He can't have decided this on his own as he has no idea and 'follows the science' so it can only be Dr Ewart and team who would put that idea into his little head? At one point @rachomicswas being hailed as a leading expert by government and we were lucky to have her expertise, what has changed? By the slow delivery of results from the UK, it would seem that they really don't want to have the information provided by an independent person as if it were leaked, it interferes with their hard won control over the Manx people? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Max Power said: Howard knows this how exactly? He can't have decided this on his own as he has no idea and 'follows the science' so it can only be Dr Ewart and team who would put that idea into his little head? At one point @rachomicswas being hailed as a leading expert by government and we were lucky to have her expertise, what has changed? By the slow delivery of results from the UK, it would seem that they really don't want to have the information provided by an independent person as if it were leaked, it interferes with their hard won control over the Manx people? What changed was....”We believe that our current copyright dispute surrounding specialist software the DHSC failed to license from us is the reason why they will not use our services, despite the obvious advantages to working with us rather than against us”. This also means that the government would rather send tests across for a two week turnaround rather than the 36(?) hours the on Island lab can produce. Oh, not to mention spending all that money off Island... Putting pride before a fall, methinks.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Max Power said: Howard knows this how exactly? He can't have decided this on his own as he has no idea and 'follows the science' so it can only be Dr Ewart and team who would put that idea into his little head? At one point @rachomicswas being hailed as a leading expert by government and we were lucky to have her expertise, what has changed? By the slow delivery of results from the UK, it would seem that they really don't want to have the information provided by an independent person as if it were leaked, it interferes with their hard won control over the Manx people? You would have thought by now that they would have stopped making the hole on the Dr Glover issue they're digging any bigger. But no, someone in the Manx equivalent of SAGE has a real hard-on over this debacle. Actually the longer this goes on the funnier it gets. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Actually the longer this goes on the funnier it gets. Apart from the bit where we're in lockdown because the government is so fucking up itsself. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 hours ago, TheTeapot said: You've answered it yourself. There are rules about murdering people. Or dealing drugs. Or speeding in your car. er....when did all this come in ? No-one told me. Best go and wash hands then. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: You would have thought by now that they would have stopped making the hole on the Dr Glover issue they're digging any bigger. Just think of the progress that could be made if they employed this civil engineering enthusiasm on the Prom... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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