Banker Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, piebaps said: Meanwhile in Europe https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56382608 Looks like we're not the only ones with problems Because they completely fucked up vaccine roll out with France even saying Oxford one didn’t work well which has since been reversed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Banker said: Well it’s 80% efficacy after one dose which has been shown by results and also in stopping spread of virus which is why cases , deaths & hospitalization have plummeted in UK since January The lockdown has done that. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Not sure but having read mine it seems to be a generic one . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, thommo2010 said: The people turning on each other is crazy. I'm seeing people complain that cyclists rode by them without a mask. That someone dared go against the one way system in a co op That someone stood 1.95 metres away in a queue instead of 2 metres. This really has brought out the worst in people Is it acceptable and perfectly safe for a cyclist to go panting? Is it perfectly safe to go against the organised systems in shops? Did someone really complaint about 1.95m rather than 2.0m? This really has brought out the worst in people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: Thanks, but couldn't a generic consent form be devised to cover both? Or.......... We push the boat out and send both, hell its only a Pandemic, blow the expense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 42 minutes ago, manxst said: It’s not really though, is it? You can leave your house, exercise, shop, work (unless it’s at the amenity sites), go where you want, not have to wear a mask if you don’t want...Most people seem to be doing nothing different to normal, other than there being a lack of socialising and having to do distancing. I must admit that being retired I'm finding winter in the Isle of Man, and lockdown in winter in the Isle of Man, aren't a whole lot different. In normal times I'd be halfway around a world cruise now. Really regretting putting all the ports of call in my calendar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 31 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: There is two separate forms, one for the Astra Zeneca and one for the Pfizer. When they send out the letters they don’t know which one you’ll be booked in, it would be a complete waste to send both forms (4 sheets of paper, 2 for each vaccine) when only 1 set would be used. Are the sheets double-sided, ie. printed on both sides?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Or.......... We push the boat out and send both, hell its only a Pandemic, blow the expense Just looked again and can only see one form , two pages , to print out so maybe they have changed the process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: When I had my first at Chester Street I had taken the precaution of printing off and filling in both forms. A rather officious lady with a clip board told me I had to fill in one of hers because mine were no good! ( She didn't even look at them.) Make of it what you will. It was easier to just fill it in than argue, so, that might explain why there were lots of form fillers? That’s strange, we printed off ours and they were accepted?, I think we may well of had the same officious lady though because there was another similar form we had to fill in and she was shocked we had our own pen, let alone because we declined the use of a clipboard? 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: Thanks, but couldn't a generic consent form be devised to cover both? Yes, that would be sensible, there isn’t much difference between them at all and that was certainly my first thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: Are the sheets double-sided, ie. printed on both sides?? I’m sure that’s possible but no they were just single sided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Are the sheets double-sided, ie. printed on both sides?? You can print them double sided and I would hope the gov have access to 2 sided printers? This is the AZ one https://www.gov.im/media/1371625/20210115-imm101-covid-19-astrazeneca-consent-form.pdf Edited March 13, 2021 by Boris Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbnuts Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: You can print them double sided and I would hope the gov have access to 2 sided printers? This is the AZ one https://www.gov.im/media/1371625/20210115-imm101-covid-19-astrazeneca-consent-form.pdf That is the same as my form just without the AZ wording on top so maybe they have made them the same now. I have no specific vaccine wording on mine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 7 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: That’s strange, we printed off ours and they were accepted?, I think we may well of had the same officious lady though because there was another similar form we had to fill in and she was shocked we had our own pen, let alone because we declined the use of a clipboard? Yes, that would be sensible, there isn’t much difference between them at all and that was certainly my first thought. I dont know what it is about people with clipboards but it seems to turn them into control freaks 🙂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: There is two separate forms, one for the Astra Zeneca and one for the Pfizer. When they send out the letters they don’t know which one you’ll be booked in, it would be a complete waste to send both forms (4 sheets of paper, 2 for each vaccine) when only 1 set would be used. They told me which one I would be having when they rang to fix the appointment so I printed the right form off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
code99 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 38 minutes ago, manxst said: It’s not really though, is it? You can leave your house, exercise, shop, work (unless it’s at the amenity sites), go where you want, not have to wear a mask if you don’t want...Most people seem to be doing nothing different to normal, other than there being a lack of socialising and having to do distancing. I suppose it depends on your personal experiences during this lockdown. The current restrictions have made some peoples' lives quite harsh. For example, yesterday somebody with a bad hip had to queue up at M&S for ages. A friend with a heart condition has had yet another delay for their 'non-urgent' appointment. I also know people who live alone, finding life increasingly stressful becasue they are not allowed to socialise with friends and relatives, something most humans need for good mental health. Some students are finding 'remote learning' very stressful too. For other people, who need indoor exercise, the NSC and all gyms are frustratingly closed (exercising outside in crap weather is not easy). All non-essential shops are closed, depriving some elderly people of the things they need; getting an appointment with a dentist is impossible... And so this list goes on and on, as does the pandemic, where there is no end in sight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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