Andy Onchan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: You can print them double sided and I would hope the gov have access to 2 sided printers? This is the AZ one https://www.gov.im/media/1371625/20210115-imm101-covid-19-astrazeneca-consent-form.pdf I was thinking of the ones being handed out. Are they printed on both sides or one side only and using two pieces of paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: I was thinking of the ones being handed out. Are they printed on both sides or one side only and using two pieces of paper? Didnt notice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie2 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Banker said: Well it’s 80% efficacy after one dose which has been shown by results and also in stopping spread of virus which is why cases , deaths & hospitalization have plummeted in UK since January You are making that up (''.....and also in stopping spread of virus''). I hope that you are a better Banker than a false Scientist. The infectiousness of someone who has been vaccinated and gets the virus (asymptomatically or with symptoms) is not yet known although the signs are encouraging that the Pfizer, Oxford and Moderna ones will reduce the transmission / infectiousness rates TO SOME EXTENT. The top insiders have speculated that this will only be between 30% and a possible maximum of 70%. Only as vaccination rates become higher will researchers be able to try and discern the effect on infection and transmission patterns, although it can be difficult to distinguish the impact of inoculations from that of measures such as lockdowns, distancing and mask mandates. The completion of the vaccine trials testing for asymptomatic infections will bring additional information. Two trials are expected to finish in April. However, one is of a vaccine from China’s Sinovac Biotech Ltd., which has a reported efficacy rate as low as 50% against symptomatic disease. The other test is the Russian Gamaleya Research Institute’s shot, whose efficacy rate was 92% in clinical trials but it’s only a small study. September should bring the completion of sizeable trials of some highly efficacious vaccines. But results for the shots that have proved most effective at preventing disease (around 95%) from Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech aren’t expected until October 2022 and January 2023, respectively. You are obviously desperate to travel and / or to have more people allowed into the island and I have great sympathy with that as I usually travel umpteen times each year and across the globe. Both the goals mentioned are possible right now under certain restrictions which you wish to have removed. But for goodness sake do not expect anyone to pay any heed to made-up factually wrong nonsense from you in considering when it is sufficiently safe, right and proper to ease restrictions. Edited March 13, 2021 by Cassie2 Typos 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 33 minutes ago, Barlow said: Is it acceptable and perfectly safe for a cyclist to go panting? Is it perfectly safe to go against the organised systems in shops? Did someone really complaint about 1.95m rather than 2.0m? This really has brought out the worst in people. Yes Yes Yes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, code99 said: I suppose it depends on your personal experiences during this lockdown. The current restrictions have made some peoples' lives quite harsh. For example, yesterday somebody with a bad hip had to queue up at M&S for ages. A friend with a heart condition has had yet another delay for their 'non-urgent' appointment. I also know people who live alone, finding life increasingly stressful becasue they are not allowed to socialise with friends and relatives, something most humans need for good mental health. Some students are finding 'remote learning' very stressful too. For other people, who need indoor exercise, the NSC and all gyms are frustratingly closed (exercising outside in crap weather is not easy). All non-essential shops are closed, depriving some elderly people of the things they need; getting an appointment with a dentist is impossible... And so this list goes on and on, as does the pandemic, where there is no end in sight. Ive just come from town. M and s and dealz are heaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Ive just come from town. M and s and dealz are heaving. Quelle surprise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 53 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: The lockdown has done that. I don't think you are wholly right. The rest of Europe including those locked down, are not seeing the drop that the UK is. Too early to say but the signs are encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 I suppose the vaccine will show much better results if theres already a quite high level of herd immunity. Would have been interesting to compare us and the uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Still, they have gone very quiet on long covid for some reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, thommo2010 said: Ive just come from town. M and s and dealz are heaving. Parliament St in Ramsey busy too, people everywhere, Farmer's Market on at the Courthouse (albeit with distancing in queueing), parking spaces in street all full, Costa open for "essential" takeaways, other various shops open too. Not much evidence of a "lockdown" IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Rushen Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Good to see that in England the schools are not getting infections. Any idea why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Happier diner said: I don't think you are wholly right. The rest of Europe including those locked down, are not seeing the drop that the UK is. Too early to say but the signs are encouraging. Maybe not wholly, but substantially. The vaccines will have an effect keeping things down and will improve the situation as time goes by, but the major drop post new year has been the stricter and better complied with lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Major Rushen said: Good to see that in England the schools are not getting infections. Any idea why? They’ve been back 4 days? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, Roxanne said: I’m now at the stage where I’m wondering not to take the vaccine now but wait until they’ve got enough stock to give it at the recommended interval. They have enough to give it at the recommended interval. Otherwise you wouldn't be getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Major Rushen said: Good to see that in England the schools are not getting infections. Any idea why? Are they not? I can't be bothered going back and finding some of what I read last week, but there have been fair few problems. One of the main complaints I read about was the policy of sending a whole class home to isolate when a kid tested positive with a lateral flow test, and then keeping them off when later testing negative on PCR. That is clearly going to have to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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