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19 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Seriously though...shouldn't they be shutting pubs down in Ramsey and ordering social distancing and masks up there for a week? And recommending people based in Ramsey work from home where possible and socially distance if working in the likes of offices, construction etc.

Otherwise 10 will be 100 in no time, if 10 isn't already 100 by now.

 

It's a good point. Why should Mrs Clague up Cregneish have to lockdown, or anyone in Douglas because Ramsey have been having a  hooley (like they did night before very first lockdown).

Contact tracing ability and people being sensible should ensure there is no further spread.

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23 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said:

Seriously though...shouldn't they be shutting pubs down in Ramsey and ordering social distancing and masks up there for a week? And recommending people based in Ramsey work from home where possible and socially distance if working in the likes of offices, construction etc.

Otherwise 10 will be 100 in no time, if 10 isn't already 100 by now.

 

As of today we are now past the imposition of such rules, especially with such low numbers. It is now about advice and personal responsibility. They may advise such measures in the locality, but imposing and 'ordering' restrictions goes against the newly adopted ethos.  

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11 minutes ago, Numbnuts said:

Gef Reporting that the ICU admission is a returning patient having had treatment in UK 

I'm not really sure if this case is included in the five announced today. If they were, they would surely be counted as 'travel-related' and none of these are.  If they had been previously diagnosed with the virus they wouldn't count as a new case.

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3 hours ago, Roger Mexico said:

It's not necessarily so.  The vast majority of those isolating will be travellers - there's only 5 active cases and only 2 of those are from the February outbreak.  And on the whole returning travellers have been fairly responsible.

Where there could be a problem is in cases being passed around within isolating households with no testing done at the end of 21 days or with only those members previously positive being retested.  We don't really know the protocols they are using.

Of course genomics would help a lot in this situation - especially if you have previously sequenced all you positive cases.  But....

Well I have heard that someone visited a family member who was in isolation after returning from UK but obviously not 100% as whilst the person is reliable it’s third or fourth hand !

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1 hour ago, rachomics said:

That figure really depends on the brand and type of vaccination given? Even with the figure you're quoting that would mean that 20% of the people who have had their first dose have no immunity and they don't know it.

Real world data. Effectiveness peaked four weeks after one dose, at 85% for the Pfizer/BioNTech and 94% for the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. It is tempting to claim the Oxford jab was better but the overlapping, plausible ranges around these estimates (76% to 91% and 73% to 99%) show we can’t conclude they are really different. Encouragingly, the combined effectiveness for over-80s was 81% (range 65% to 90%).

https://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/commentisfree/2021/feb/28/both-covid-jabs-are-working-well-in-the-real-world-not-just-the-lab

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