IOM Covid removing restrictions

[hampsterkahn]

39 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

I am guessing all the residents are double jabbed so if they are this is the most amount of protection they will have. Is this the way we are going to go now? if it is then you have to ask what is the point of getting vaccinated?

The “point” or rather “points “ are:

 1.They are still an extremely vulnerable group.
Being vaccinated greatly reduces the chance of them contracting Covid and greatly reduces the severity of the illness if they do.

It can be regarded in simple terms - if they are unfortunate to contract Covid it effectively reduces  their “Covid age” by over thirty years.

It  is for basic humanitarian reasons.The effects of Covid  for someone in this vulnerable group can be terrible and It’s a horrible way to die.

2.Most ,  but not all, residents consented to be vaccinated 

3. Most,  but not every member of staff, consented  to be vaccinated

Looking at the care home deaths in UK last year - we were fortunate to have just one care home disaster. 

[thommo2010]

1 minute ago, hampsterkahn said:

The “point” or rather “points “ are:

 1.They are still an extremely vulnerable group.
Being vaccinated greatly reduces the chance of them contracting Covid and greatly reduces the severity of the illness if they do.

It can be regarded in simple terms - if they are unfortunate to contract Covid it effectively reduces  their “Covid age” by over thirty years.

It  is for basic humanitarian reasons.The effects of Covid  for someone in this vulnerable group can be terrible and It’s a horrible way to die.

2.Most ,  but not all, residents consented to be vaccinated 

3. Most,  but not every member of staff, consented  to be vaccinated

Looking at the care home deaths in UK last year - we were fortunate to have just one care home disaster. 

And like I say I would assume they are all vaccinated so won't be able to get more protection, we were told vaccinations were the way back to normality but that doesn't seem to be the case. The vast majority of the population is double vaccinated yet businesses are closed people off work etc etc

[Banker]

3 minutes ago, thommo2010 said:

I took the kids to Onchan park yesterday and was going to get us something to eat from the cafe but it was closed and it had a sign that said (and I am paraphrasing) we are closed due to the current covid situation on the Island, we are taking a few days to see how things go and will open again soon, none of our staff have tested positive for covid. we ended up going to the little shed by the dhoon.

Think they shut weeks ago! Missing out on the busiest time of year , must have plenty of money to just shut for no reason.

Meanwhile the cafe on Laxey promenade & many others are doing extremely well .

[NoTailT]

'IOM COVID REMOVING RESTRICTIONS' you say? They seem to be coming back via the private sector...

Living with it? Doesn't look like that rodders.

[Roger Mexico]

55 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

Where are you getting that crap from? All the potatoes grown by Walkers come from UK.

But the other products used in manufacture may not be.  And the potatoes aren't going to get to the factory and the crisps leave it under their own steam.  They need to be driven there and there's a growing shortage of drivers.  Modern manufacturing and supply are intensely complex procedures and Brexit with its many foreseen and unforeseen consequences is disrupting even resilient systems in a lot of ways.

[WTF]

banks back to masks and social distancing it seems,   

[Andy Onchan]

4 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said:

But the other products used in manufacture may not be.  And the potatoes aren't going to get to the factory and the crisps leave it under their own steam.  They need to be driven there and there's a growing shortage of drivers.  Modern manufacturing and supply are intensely complex procedures and Brexit with its many foreseen and unforeseen consequences is disrupting even resilient systems in a lot of ways.

The driver shortage was around long before BREXIT. If Brexit is to blame then it's because the eastern European & Turkish owner/drivers would do the work for peanuts (literally) making the profession financially unattractive for anyone local entering the sector. The average age of UK (and some EU countries) haulage drivers has increased because younger drivers have not been coming through.

[SleepyJoe]

Knowing that huge investment is going into future self-driving eTrucks probably doesn't help

[Ramseyboi]

1 hour ago, hampsterkahn said:

The “point” or rather “points “ are:

 1.They are still an extremely vulnerable group.
Being vaccinated greatly reduces the chance of them contracting Covid and greatly reduces the severity of the illness if they do.

It can be regarded in simple terms - if they are unfortunate to contract Covid it effectively reduces  their “Covid age” by over thirty years.

It  is for basic humanitarian reasons.The effects of Covid  for someone in this vulnerable group can be terrible and It’s a horrible way to die.

2.Most ,  but not all, residents consented to be vaccinated 

3. Most,  but not every member of staff, consented  to be vaccinated

Looking at the care home deaths in UK last year - we were fortunate to have just one care home disaster. 

Never having visiting again then? Let’s face it the only way cases are going down is if they stop testing people, this isn’t going anywhere.

Re Onchan Park Cafe.  Commissioners should pull their lease for not being open in peak season, which lets face it is only a few weeks a year anyway.

[Gladys]

3 hours ago, Banker said:

Contact tracing being scaled down,probably impossible due to spread 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/covid-contact-tracing-reduced-due-to-resource-issues/?fbclid=IwAR0udDEAlvpik7J_ybhSglICNQSuoNyvj_n5iNOCw-RY_sNI-Sx6BGsILno

Confirming what I overheard weeks ago.  So much for openness and transparency.  Of course it is being hailed as part of the plan, not that the numbers make it impossible. 

[Gladys]

2 hours ago, offshoremanxman said:

Most of the team were less than useless anyway. We underinvested all the way through this in what should have been front line pandemic defenses. 

No, Dr E said they were highly skilled and able. 

[Ramseyboi]

3 minutes ago, Gladys said:

No, Dr E said they were highly skilled and able. 

And experienced 😂😂😂

[Whiskey]

1 hour ago, thommo2010 said:

I took the kids to Onchan park yesterday and was going to get us something to eat from the cafe but it was closed and it had a sign that said (and I am paraphrasing) we are closed due to the current covid situation on the Island, we are taking a few days to see how things go and will open again soon, none of our staff have tested positive for covid. we ended up going to the little shed by the dhoon.

Was their hatch not open? 

[Whiskey]

1 hour ago, thommo2010 said:

 

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[Roger Mexico]

11 minutes ago, Gladys said:

No, Dr E said they were highly skilled and able. 

They probably were.  As I've said before many of them seem to have been EHOs who do this sort of thing as part of their job.  The trouble is that there weren't very many of them and there seems to have been no effort made to train others for use when demand increased.  DHSC seems not to have really grasped how epidemics work, with rapid increases in the need for for testing, tracing and so on taking them by surprise every time it happens.