IOM Covid removing restrictions

[Barlow]

8 hours ago, Banker said:

Contact tracing being scaled down,probably impossible due to spread 

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/covid-contact-tracing-reduced-due-to-resource-issues/?fbclid=IwAR0udDEAlvpik7J_ybhSglICNQSuoNyvj_n5iNOCw-RY_sNI-Sx6BGsILno

 

On Isle of Man, contract tracing should have been an absolute breeze. A system should have been set up and sorted during the easy time of first lockdown, and continued from there.

[AlanShimmin]

17 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

But the vaccine will keep the vast, vast majority out of hospital and protect against serious illness. You forgot to mention that.

Totally agree it reduces illness. 

Only applying that to the MNH decision to only allow vaxxed people to stay.

[Andy Onchan]

9 minutes ago, NoTailT said:

We were referring to MNH reason to only allow 2+2 vaccinated on to Calf of Man here though...

But that's a sensible thing to do though, isn't it? Especially since it's shared accommodation and very small?

[Barlow]

 

 

6 hours ago, Apple said:

https://www.manxradio.com/news/isle-of-man-news/care-home-closures-incredibly-distressing-admits-ceo/

Teressa Cope telling us, over and over, how 'genuinely' sorry they are and how 'difficult' the decision was to stop visiting to care homes. So genuine and so difficult it has to be repeated several times to get the message across.

Somehow it doesn't sound so genuine. More patronising. Like it was at the Board meeting. 

Well she used the word 'incredibly'.

'Incredibly' is an incredibly genuine word to use and it can't really be used enough and will always retain its genuineness.

[Banker]

8 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said:

Totally agree it reduces illness. 

Only applying that to the MNH decision to only allow vaxxed people to stay.

But it’s the same policy for travellers from CTA , they can’t come to IOM unless 2+2 vaccinated 

[AlanShimmin]

3 minutes ago, Banker said:

But it’s the same policy for travellers from CTA , they can’t come to IOM unless 2+2 vaccinated 

Local residents 

[code99]

As some have previously said on MF, with a risk of being scorned by few, relaxing our border restrictions on 28 June was an asinine thing to do. This is (quite clearly) our incompetent politicians’ fault, because they made this decision.

Fully vaccinated people are still able to contract and transmit the Delta variant. However, once you are fully vaccinated and then catch Covid (even the Delta variant), your symptoms are almost certainly going to be significantly less severe than if you had not been vaccinated. I believe that we should had waited until schools broke for the summer holidays and more people being vaccinated. I generally don’t mindlessly support/ heed the UK’s line on anything, but in this case even the 19th July would have been more appropriate date to relax our border restrictions than 28th June.

The ensuing shambles is that the entire IOM health system is rapidly becoming pressured, e.g., patients are having their surgeries cancelled due to insufficient hospital beds. This is not an insignificant matter for patients who are suffering agonising pain. 

Let’s hope the GMP will  remember this debacle at the ballot box in September.

[Banker]

14 minutes ago, code99 said:

As some have previously said on MF, with a risk of being scorned by few, relaxing our border restrictions on 28 June was an asinine thing to do. This is (quite clearly) our incompetent politicians’ fault, because they made this decision.

Fully vaccinated people are still able to contract and transmit the Delta variant. However, once you are fully vaccinated and then catch Covid (even the Delta variant), your symptoms are almost certainly going to be significantly less severe than if you had not been vaccinated. I believe that we should had waited until schools broke for the summer holidays and more people being vaccinated. I generally don’t mindlessly support/ heed the UK’s line on anything, but in this case even the 19th July would have been more appropriate date to relax our border restrictions than 28th June.

The ensuing shambles is that the entire IOM health system is rapidly becoming pressured, e.g., patients are having their surgeries cancelled due to insufficient hospital beds. This is not an insignificant matter for patients who are suffering agonising pain. 

Let’s hope the GMP will  remember this debacle at the ballot box in September.

Not sure the visitors with 2+2 were the cause of the major outbreak, someone who was confirmed positive broke isolation to attend the football event at nunnery which was a major super spreader event & probably the cause of half the cases. 
another super spreader event were the end of school proms when 100s of cases in schools 
Most of the cases are in the younger not fully vaccinated population 

Edited August 2, 2021 by Banker

[WTF]

1 hour ago, Andy Onchan said:

But the vaccine will keep the vast, vast majority out of hospital and protect against serious illness. You forgot to mention that.

i wonder how may of the people in nobles with covid are double jabbed ?   i bet we never get told.

[thommo2010]

18 minutes ago, code99 said:

As some have previously said on MF, with a risk of being scorned by few, relaxing our border restrictions on 28 June was an asinine thing to do. This is (quite clearly) our incompetent politicians’ fault, because they made this decision.

Fully vaccinated people are still able to contract and transmit the Delta variant. However, once you are fully vaccinated and then catch Covid (even the Delta variant), your symptoms are almost certainly going to be significantly less severe than if you had not been vaccinated. I believe that we should had waited until schools broke for the summer holidays and more people being vaccinated. I generally don’t mindlessly support/ heed the UK’s line on anything, but in this case even the 19th July would have been more appropriate date to relax our border restrictions than 28th June.

The ensuing shambles is that the entire IOM health system is rapidly becoming pressured, e.g., patients are having their surgeries cancelled due to insufficient hospital beds. This is not an insignificant matter for patients who are suffering agonising pain. 

Let’s hope the GMP will  remember this debacle at the ballot box in September.

No matter when we lifted restrictions its likely hospital procedures would have been postponed. What we are seeing now would have happened in a months time 

[Roger Mexico]

55 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said:

Cabinet Office not DHSC running 111. To me it seems it's more CoMin that is causing the issue and ignoring advice that has been given to them.

I was thinking as much about the testing where it appears there is only a budget for 200 (PCR) tests a day, but CoMin and the CO have certainly not been helping.  The lack of any coordination and planning (which is what the CO is supposed to be for) is the real problem though.

[Ramseyboi]

53 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said:

But that's a sensible thing to do though, isn't it? Especially since it's shared accommodation and very small?

No it's a stupid thing to do for the reasons given above.

Personal responsibility and the only people risk from small , shared accommodation are those who chose to put themselves in there.

[AcousticallyChallenged]

From the IOMG Facebook feed.

The Council of Ministers has recently reviewed the position and guidance on the use of face coverings. 

In recent weeks there has been a visible increase in the use of face coverings by the public across a range of settings.  Whilst face coverings remain a matter of personal choice, it was felt that a clear indication of when face coverings are likely to have the maximum benefit would assist the public. 

Government strongly advises that members of the public wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces. 

Existing advice on the need to consider hands, face, space and fresh air continues to apply across all settings, recognising that all of these factors combined help to reduce the likelihood of COVID-19 spreading. 

While current case numbers have reduced from the recent peak, this is likely to fluctuate and some level of cases will continue for the foreseeable future.  An increased use and consideration of face coverings could play a role in containing further spread of the virus, allowing society and the economy to continue to function over the next month. 

The advice aligns the Isle of Man to the advice given in England, where face coverings are no longer mandatory but it is advised that they are used in crowded and confined spaces. 

Chief Minister Howard Quayle MHK said:

'It is encouraging to see that the case numbers of COVID-19 in the Island have reduced.  This is undoubtedly thanks to the great Manx public’s diligence and the responsible measures that people are taking.  Clearly, it is still too early to tell what the long term trends may look like.  The Council of Ministers has always committed to reviewing the situation regularly and updating our guidance in line with the data available to us.'

More here👉http://ow.ly/OpsO50FIHBP

[the stinking enigma]

Bit nitpicky i know, but it's not a cases question, not even a hospital one, it says cases closed 3345. Cases recovered 3339?

[John Wright]

11 minutes ago, the stinking enigma said:

Bit nitpicky i know, but it's not a cases question, not even a hospital one, it says cases closed 3345. Cases recovered 3339?

And 5 deaths since the table was re set earlier this year. So one of the figures is a single digit adrift.