Omobono Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Banker said: Don’t worry the doom merchants will be on all social media soon!! Some woman on radio this morning demanding that mandatory face masks be introduced everywhere as there were not sufficient numbers wearing them! I hear a 46 year old is the latest victim of Covid ,I wonder if he had his second jab , nothing in the media about it !but we only want good news on the isle of man these days , so much for being transparent a quote from HQ the outgoing Chief minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Omobono said: I hear a 46 year old is the latest victim of Covid ,I wonder if he had his second jab , nothing in the media about it !but we only want good news on the isle of man these days , so much for being transparent a quote from HQ the outgoing Chief minister Deaths haven’t changed on dashboard so if true it must have only just happened & Government normally wait a while until families advised. Where did you hear this awful news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Cassie2 said: LONG COVID - THE MAYO CLINIC. COVID-19 (coronavirus): LONG-TERM EFFECTS https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351#:~:text=rates by state-,COVID-19 (coronavirus)%3A Long-term effects,completely within a few weeks. COVID-19 (coronavirus): Long-term effects COVID-19 symptoms can sometimes persist for months. The virus can damage the lungs, heart and brain, which increases the risk of long-term health problems. Most people who have coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) recover completely within a few weeks. But some people — even those who had mild versions of the disease — continue to experience symptoms after their initial recovery. These people sometimes describe themselves as "long haulers" and the conditions have been called post-COVID-19 syndrome or "long COVID-19." These health issues are sometimes called post-COVID-19 conditions. They're generally considered to be effects of COVID-19 that persist for more than four weeks after you've been diagnosed with the COVID-19 virus. Older people and people with many serious medical conditions are the most likely to experience lingering COVID-19 symptoms, but even young, otherwise healthy people can feel unwell for weeks to months after infection. Common signs and symptoms that linger over time include: Fatigue Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing Cough Joint pain Chest pain Memory, concentration or sleep problems Muscle pain or headache Fast or pounding heartbeat Loss of smell or taste Depression or anxiety Fever Dizziness when you stand Worsened symptoms after physical or mental activities ORGAN DAMAGE CAUSED BY COVID-19 Although COVID-19 is seen as a disease that primarily affects the lungs, it can damage many other organs as well. This organ damage may increase the risk of long-term health problems. Organs that may be affected by COVID-19 include: Heart. Imaging tests taken months after recovery from COVID-19 have shown lasting damage to the heart muscle, even in people who experienced only mild COVID-19 symptoms. This may increase the risk of heart failure or other heart complications in the future. Lungs. The type of pneumonia often associated with COVID-19 can cause long-standing damage to the tiny air sacs (alveoli) in the lungs. The resulting scar tissue can lead to long-term breathing problems. Brain. Even in young people, COVID-19 can cause strokes, seizures and Guillain-Barre syndrome — a condition that causes temporary paralysis. COVID-19 may also increase the risk of developing Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease. Some adults and children experience multisystem inflammatory syndrome after they have had COVID-19. In this condition, some organs and tissues become severely inflamed. Like chronic fatigue and similar that people have had after viral infections since time began then. The main ones I know of personally who have suffered have been after glandular fever or meningitis. Even Cav suffered for a long time after he had Epstein. Medium to long term after effects from a viral infection are not new or unique to COVID Edited August 10, 2021 by Ramseyboi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Banker said: Deaths haven’t changed on dashboard so if true it must have only just happened & Government normally wait a while until families advised. Where did you hear this awful news? Another Peeley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 hour ago, AlanShimmin said: New cases: Down Active cases: Down Hospital cases: Down ICU cases: Down Doom merchants: Busy working out how to put a negative spin on it. They are no longer PCR testing people with positive LFT's that phone 111. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) Weird day in covidworld https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/10/covid-vaccines-britain-scientific-solution-jabs Edited August 10, 2021 by TheTeapot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassie2 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: They are no longer PCR testing people with positive LFT's that phone 111. Tweets by two local top people on IOMG ''Active Case nos'': Dr. Rachel Glover @rachomics Aug 2 ''The logical conclusion for cases "going down" on the Isle of Man is not that transmission is reducing. It's that everyone has given up reporting their positive LFDs so then no PCR test and not on the stats. If people believe the government don't care, they won't bother to engage.'' Dr. Rachel Glover Aug 2 ''What the retired consultant microbiologist at Nobles has to say about contact tracing being scaled back because the levels of COVID in the community are so high they can't cope: John Wardle @malew51 Aug 2 It will reduce the number of positive tests and allow Ashford to claim that there are fewer cases so their policies are working. If mitigations (masks, Social Distancing, quarantine / testing of all travellers) had continued there would really be fewer cases and resources would not be an issue.'' 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: They are no longer PCR testing people with positive LFT's that phone 111. They don’t need to phone 111 , they can just book it online so don’t think that’s a valid reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Cassie2 said: Tweets by two local top people on IOMG ''Active Case nos'': Dr. Rachel Glover @rachomics Aug 2 ''The logical conclusion for cases "going down" on the Isle of Man is not that transmission is reducing. It's that everyone has given up reporting their positive LFDs so then no PCR test and not on the stats. If people believe the government don't care, they won't bother to engage.'' Dr. Rachel Glover Aug 2 ''What the retired consultant microbiologist at Nobles has to say about contact tracing being scaled back because the levels of COVID in the community are so high they can't cope: John Wardle @malew51 Aug 2 It will reduce the number of positive tests and allow Ashford to claim that there are fewer cases so their policies are working. If mitigations (masks, Social Distancing, quarantine / testing of all travellers) had continued there would really be fewer cases and resources would not be an issue.'' Genuine question. At this stage who cares, and why? Things aren't ever going back to how they were, now we have something else to be slightly concerned about alongside flu, pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, car crashes, mental health etc. Personally I am more worried about the predicted bad flu and other respiratory disease season that is soon to hit us as a result of lockdowns. This is more likely what forces us back to masks etc as people are now so terrified of every little thing that "might" make them ill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham_N_Eggs Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, Banker said: They don’t need to phone 111 , they can just book it online so don’t think that’s a valid reason There's a surprising amount of people still ringing 111 for reassurance rather than booking online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ham_N_Eggs said: There's a surprising amount of people still ringing 111 for reassurance rather than booking online. Lots of cars in the queue at the Grandstand at 10:45 today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramseyboi Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Andy Onchan said: Lots of cars in the queue at the Grandstand at 10:45 today. Partly because we are inexplicably still testing single jabbed residents who have been away, those who haven't been vaccinated and even teenage kids. For absolutely no valid reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Genuine question. At this stage who cares, and why? Things aren't ever going back to how they were, now we have something else to be slightly concerned about alongside flu, pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, car crashes, mental health etc. Personally I am more worried about the predicted bad flu and other respiratory disease season that is soon to hit us as a result of lockdowns. This is more likely what forces us back to masks etc as people are now so terrified of every little thing that "might" make them ill. Governments have seen how easy it is to implement lockdown by uttering the words protect the nhs so rather than plow more cash into a failing service it would be easier to have us under restrictions. I share your concern 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ramseyboi said: Genuine question. At this stage who cares, and why? Things aren't ever going back to how they were, now we have something else to be slightly concerned about alongside flu, pneumonia, heart disease, cancer, car crashes, mental health etc. Personally I am more worried about the predicted bad flu and other respiratory disease season that is soon to hit us as a result of lockdowns. This is more likely what forces us back to masks etc as people are now so terrified of every little thing that "might" make them ill. Certainly IOMG should be looking to include more age ranges in the flu jabbing sessions this year. Although I think masks should be encouraged to combat the spread of flu as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: Lots of cars in the queue at the Grandstand at 10:45 today. None when I went past yesterday at 945 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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