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5 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

Live update from London right now: about half of people are wearing masks in shops, about 70odd% on the tube. Not seen any shops ask for masks either. No social distancing to be seen anywhere and few fucks given. There’s crimbo shopping to be done after all. Also: bringing your own chair on the tube is next level. Respect. 
 

 

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I can’t see people going for masks here either.  The schools tried and virtually no one paid any attention.

Time to get it off the news and just let us crack on.

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11 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

Live update from London right now: about half of people are wearing masks in shops, about 70odd% on the tube. Not seen any shops ask for masks either. No social distancing to be seen anywhere and few fucks given. There’s crimbo shopping to be done after all. Also: bringing your own chair on the tube is next level. Respect. 
 

 

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Masks are not mandatory in uk until Tuesday, same day mandatory PCR & isolation coming in

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46 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said:

From your article:

That's the fundamental problem. Until scientists can do their lab magic, it's an unknown.

The choices we have with that unknown are panic, take pragmatic steps to reduce spread if it is here, or wait until we find out if it's a problem.

There's a gamble, and, the least invasive mitigations involve more testing, more masks, and asking people not to lick doorknobs. If it turns out that it's not a big deal, great, we can crack on. If it does, we've reduced the initial foothold.

As an aside, GB News is often full of nonsense, so I wouldn't put any weight on their journalism.

Every single media channel is often full of nonsense. I wouldn't put any weight on any journalism at the moment. Not sure why you think name checking the channel gives your point any extra gravitas. 

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9 minutes ago, Danoo said:

Every single media channel is often full of nonsense. I wouldn't put any weight on any journalism at the moment. Not sure why you think name checking the channel gives your point any extra gravitas. 

Gravitas is a moot point on an Internet forum.

But it did wind Utah up into calling me names. So, worth it. :D

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This article is well worth a read. It's a nice summary of where we are, and the quote below decries the notion of it being time to panic.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/11/omicron-coronavirus-variant-what-we-know/620827/

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What’s known so far absolutely warrants attention—not panic. Viruses mutate; they always do. Not all variants of concern turn out to be, well, all that concerning; many end up being mere blips in the pandemic timeline. As Omicron knocks up against its viral competitors, it may struggle to gain a toehold; it could yet be quelled through a combination of vaccines and infection-prevention measures such as masks and distancing. Vaccine makers have already announced plans to test their shots’ effectiveness against the new variant—with data to emerge in the coming weeks—and explore new dosing strategies that might help tamp down its spread. Omicron might be set up for some success, but a lot of its future also depends on us.

 

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5 minutes ago, offshoremanxman said:

“more time is needed before we know the seriousness of the disease for vulnerable people” the main issue still seems to be immuno compromised people which isn’t surprising given the general HIV rate in Africa.

… and healthy, vaccinated people appear to get only mild, but different, symptoms and recover quickly (albeit only low numbers and males).

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