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6 hours ago, hampsterkahn said:

Even at this early stage, well ahead of the review, there are those  ready to dismiss  it as being unnecessary and a waste of time and money.

There are others those who  feel that an independent review is appropriate to look at the handling of the crisis, particularly in the early stages.

There is no escaping the facts that people got ill and  died; lives were disrupted; businesses collapsed.

There is a need for an enquiry and such things are never cheap.

However we should be able to expect value for money.It must be profoundly searching and it’s conclusions robust, otherwise it will indeed be a waste.

A fundamental  must be a total ban on the expression “lessons will be learned”.

 

All the arguments for and against, cost etc have been had. Originally CoMin wanted no enquiry, then an internal one. Pressure within Tynwald led to a public one, with attendant cost.

If it leaves us better prepared for the next one and if lessons are truly learned it will be worthwhile.

I suppose it depends what it investigates. For what it’s worth this is my wish list.

Travel restrictions.

Was the initial travel restriction cutting off the Island brought in soon enough?

Should there have been quarantine “hotels” provided by tax payer from day 1.

Were the isolation testing regimes/timetables adequate, were changes and reductions justified?

Hospitals & Care homes

Was the discharge to care homes policy justified. Alternatives.

Was the no visiting policy justified. Alternatives.

Vaccination

Was the inception of the vaccination programme timely and effective

What led to the delay in commencement, local approval and indemnity negotiation

Type, location, mobility of vaccination delivery. Including physical aspects and use of volunteers

Passports

Delay in Manx info being uploaded.

Infection Waves

Steam Packet

New Year 2021

Easter 2021

What more should have been done to prevent

Were lockdowns introduced fast enough/removed fast enough

Testing, Tracking  & Tracing

The Rachel Glover situation

Was Sequencing necessary, preferable or advisable in the Manx context. 

Was tracking & tracing effective ( or needed at all )

Legal regime 

Government powers - are they adequate

Police and court reaction - was imprisonment justified

Government Support

Effectiveness

Fraud

Targeting

Future National Plan, framework

The various control or leader groups, who should be on.

Stock of PPE etc and rotation

Hospital and step down accommodation capacity adequacy

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40 minutes ago, John Wright said:

All the arguments for and against, cost etc have been had. Originally CoMin wanted no enquiry, then an internal one. Pressure within Tynwald led to a public one, with attendant cost.

If it leaves us better prepared for the next one and if lessons are truly learned it will be worthwhile.

I suppose it depends what it investigates. For what it’s worth this is my wish list.

Travel restrictions.

Was the initial travel restriction cutting off the Island brought in soon enough?

Should there have been quarantine “hotels” provided by tax payer from day 1.

Were the isolation testing regimes/timetables adequate, were changes and reductions justified?

Hospitals & Care homes

Was the discharge to care homes policy justified. Alternatives.

Was the no visiting policy justified. Alternatives.

Vaccination

Was the inception of the vaccination programme timely and effective

What led to the delay in commencement, local approval and indemnity negotiation

Type, location, mobility of vaccination delivery. Including physical aspects and use of volunteers

Passports

Delay in Manx info being uploaded.

Infection Waves

Steam Packet

New Year 2021

Easter 2021

What more should have been done to prevent

Were lockdowns introduced fast enough/removed fast enough

Testing, Tracking  & Tracing

The Rachel Glover situation

Was Sequencing necessary, preferable or advisable in the Manx context. 

Was tracking & tracing effective ( or needed at all )

Legal regime 

Government powers - are they adequate

Police and court reaction - was imprisonment justified

Government Support

Effectiveness

Fraud

Targeting

Future National Plan, framework

The various control or leader groups, who should be on.

Stock of PPE etc and rotation

Hospital and step down accommodation capacity adequacy

Nice summary. They should work with these headings. 

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37 minutes ago, Happier diner said:

Nice summary. They should work with these headings. 

TBF much of that is covered in the scope of the review, but whether thise specificissues are covered in actuality remains to be seen.   They will also be inviting submissions so anything missed can be raised.  Despite my flippant remarks above, there is much to be looked at.  However, will the findings be acted upon or will it just join the multitude of other inquiries which have been disregarded?

JW refers to 'the Rachel Glover situation'.  They do refer to sequencing in the scope, but I am not sure if it will lift the stones on the whole carry on.  In fact they do say that they will not be looking at specific complaints.

On the plus side the Steam Packet issue  is also mentioned.

 

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1 hour ago, John Wright said:

All the arguments for and against, cost etc have been had. Originally CoMin wanted no enquiry, then an internal one. Pressure within Tynwald led to a public one, with attendant cost.

If it leaves us better prepared for the next one and if lessons are truly learned it will be worthwhile.

I suppose it depends what it investigates. For what it’s worth this is my wish list.

Travel restrictions.

Was the initial travel restriction cutting off the Island brought in soon enough?

Should there have been quarantine “hotels” provided by tax payer from day 1.

Were the isolation testing regimes/timetables adequate, were changes and reductions justified?

Hospitals & Care homes

Was the discharge to care homes policy justified. Alternatives.

Was the no visiting policy justified. Alternatives.

Vaccination

Was the inception of the vaccination programme timely and effective

What led to the delay in commencement, local approval and indemnity negotiation

Type, location, mobility of vaccination delivery. Including physical aspects and use of volunteers

Passports

Delay in Manx info being uploaded.

Infection Waves

Steam Packet

New Year 2021

Easter 2021

What more should have been done to prevent

Were lockdowns introduced fast enough/removed fast enough

Testing, Tracking  & Tracing

The Rachel Glover situation

Was Sequencing necessary, preferable or advisable in the Manx context. 

Was tracking & tracing effective ( or needed at all )

Legal regime 

Government powers - are they adequate

Police and court reaction - was imprisonment justified

Government Support

Effectiveness

Fraud

Targeting

Future National Plan, framework

The various control or leader groups, who should be on.

Stock of PPE etc and rotation

Hospital and step down accommodation capacity adequacy

And skirting boards... What about the skirting boards? 

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1 hour ago, Gladys said:

However, will the findings be acted upon or will it just join the multitude of other inquiries which have been disregarded?

Will we finally learn the outcomes from Abbotswood enquiry?

Maybe even throw in a bit about the Ranson case? 

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1 hour ago, Gladys said:

TBF much of that is covered in the scope of the review, but whether thise specificissues are covered in actuality remains to be seen.   They will also be inviting submissions so anything missed can be raised.  Despite my flippant remarks above, there is much to be looked at.  However, will the findings be acted upon or will it just join the multitude of other inquiries which have been disregarded?

JW refers to 'the Rachel Glover situation'.  They do refer to sequencing in the scope, but I am not sure if it will lift the stones on the whole carry on.  In fact they do say that they will not be looking at specific complaints.

On the plus side the Steam Packet issue  is also mentioned.

 

Oh no  I can't wait to open up that discussion on the 'benefits' of being able to do on Island sequencing. 

We should make a deal. If you and @Roger Mexico don't bring it up. Neither will I.😁

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3 hours ago, John Wright said:

All the arguments for and against, cost etc have been had. Originally CoMin wanted no enquiry, then an internal one. Pressure within Tynwald led to a public one, with attendant cost.

If it leaves us better prepared for the next one and if lessons are truly learned it will be worthwhile.

I suppose it depends what it investigates. For what it’s worth this is my wish list.

Travel restrictions.

Was the initial travel restriction cutting off the Island brought in soon enough?

Should there have been quarantine “hotels” provided by tax payer from day 1.

Were the isolation testing regimes/timetables adequate, were changes and reductions justified?

Hospitals & Care homes

Was the discharge to care homes policy justified. Alternatives.

Was the no visiting policy justified. Alternatives.

Vaccination

Was the inception of the vaccination programme timely and effective

What led to the delay in commencement, local approval and indemnity negotiation

Type, location, mobility of vaccination delivery. Including physical aspects and use of volunteers

Passports

Delay in Manx info being uploaded.

Infection Waves

Steam Packet

New Year 2021

Easter 2021

What more should have been done to prevent

Were lockdowns introduced fast enough/removed fast enough

Testing, Tracking  & Tracing

The Rachel Glover situation

Was Sequencing necessary, preferable or advisable in the Manx context. 

Was tracking & tracing effective ( or needed at all )

Legal regime 

Government powers - are they adequate

Police and court reaction - was imprisonment justified

Government Support

Effectiveness

Fraud

Targeting

Future National Plan, framework

The various control or leader groups, who should be on.

Stock of PPE etc and rotation

Hospital and step down accommodation capacity adequacy

You have done a lot of the work for them !
If you have’t already done so, I suggest that you forward your list to them as it seems to be  very comprehensive.

There is  just one another aspect that had a great bearing on the early stages of the handling of the Pandemic - and that is the performance of the CEO , K Magson and the conduct of her duties in relation to Dr Ranson and communications her minister.

Can you give your view on that ?  - Is this something that the enquiry  can cover?

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