asitis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: This thread is just one big government hate fest! Like we’ve had it so bad compared with other jurisdictions over the last COVID-19 year. ( Nothing to do with the way the Government has acted and handled the situation of course. Just luck I guess) You're certainly right about luck, they rode it, but its now run out and requires leadership ! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: I obviously didn't understand your first comment - but then I don't understand that one either. Was meant to say RG, not GG, but not a brain teaser tbh. Edited January 15, 2021 by dilligaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, rachomics said: At this point, if they swallowed their pride and sent me an email, I'd sequence and analyse all the cases to date for free. Serious, Dr Glover why don’t you swallow your own pride and do all that? That would show you were the bigger person and help us all out Edited January 15, 2021 by The Voice of Reason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Serious, Dr Glover why don’t you show that you are the bigger person and swallow your own pride and do all that? That would earn you a lot of respect and hopefully put paid to this feuding on MF, Facebook, Twitter etc and hopefully put all this to bed Wow, some take. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 35 minutes ago, rachomics said: At this point, if they swallowed their pride and sent me an email, I'd sequence and analyse all the cases to date for free. Regardless of personalities this small island is unbelievably fortunate to have expertise and assets like this with the speed it brings in testing and tracking transmission. I couldn't believe that Govt. ineptitude had wasted this asset in the first place because they couldn't manage the relationship but there was no community problem then and they were too busy slapping each other on the back to think about "planning for the worst". In the current circumstances, if Quayle doesn't recognise his duty to the population to ensure this offer is taken up, someone may well die unnecessarily. If they are a member of my family I will be straight to the lawyers. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Ok.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lewis said: Regardless of personalities this small island is unbelievably fortunate to have expertise and assets like this with the speed it brings in testing and tracking transmission. I couldn't believe that Govt. ineptitude had wasted this asset in the first place because they couldn't manage the relationship but there was no community problem then and they were too busy slapping each other on the back to think about "planning for the worst". In the current circumstances, if Quayle doesn't recognise his duty to the population to ensure this offer is taken up, someone may well die unnecessarily. If they are a member of my family I will be straight to the lawyers. Stupid. You on FB by any chance ? Stand in front of mirror and read out that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, jaymann said: I recently emailed the same people offering to fully fund a contact tracing app (aware they'd refused a similar offer for a tracing app last year), they didn't reply. I can see how aggregated 'contact tracing' might provide a statistical advantage on average across a large population of many millions. But if you think about how statistics work - it's difficult to see how much of an advantage such an app would offer a specific small local sample. About half the population here probably pass each other in traffic every day - or pass by their houses. In no time we'd all be in isolation. Surely it would be just as likely to be a distraction. And you've also got to factor in the reality of software development. This thing will be over before the testing is done. And then there are all of the issues around compliance. It doesn't seem like a serious prospect here. Can you see a way in which it could produce useful data? ETA: also - I doubt that the cost is an issue. Paying for it just seems like grandstanding. The issue is whether a sensible and scientifically justified proposal was attached - together with a proposal and schedule around actually building it. Paying is the easiest part. Edited January 15, 2021 by pongo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Serious, Dr Glover why don’t you swallow your own pride and do all that? That would show you were the bigger person and help us all out. So your take is that Dr. Glover's "pride" is an obstacle to our collective health? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 41 minutes ago, Gladys said: Or pick up the phone to Henrietta quickly followed by an open email to DA and her, cc the CM? Nobody serious communicates by 'open' letter ever. Or CCs people in for effect. That's always about taking a stance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: Serious, Dr Glover why don’t you swallow your own pride and do all that? That would show you were the bigger person and help us all out The Chief Minister is the one who's primary duty is the safety of the population. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, quilp said: So your take is that Dr. Glover's "pride" is an obstacle to our collective health? I didn’t say that, just that if all interested parties worked together we may get a better outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Lewis said: The Chief Minister is the one who's primary duty is the safety of the population. We all have a stake in that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, pongo said: Nobody serious communicates by 'open' letter ever. Or CCs people in for effect. That's always about taking a stance. OK, don't do it that way, but a conversation may bring many benefits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: I didn’t say that, just that if all interested parties worked together we may get a better outcome. You may as well have though. I doubt you'd suggest the same to your boss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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