Happier diner Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Cambon said: Correct! Jersey's economy has a massive tourist based element. Although it only forms a small part of the financial side of their economy, from an employment point of view it is massive. Iom does not have that issue. Our government is spot on in their vaccination strategy. It is a marathon, not a sprint! Yeah that's true. But we are the chap who does the marathons in his full dry diving suit and lead boots 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) IOM vaccine marathon not sprint team Edited January 16, 2021 by Happier diner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Roger Mexico said: We won't be 'leading the way' with a contact tracing app - that's stupid DfE-style talk. We'll look at other places that are running an effective app with widespread adoption (be it Ireland, New Zealand, Taiwan, Jersey of whoever) and take what we need from them. There's not the time to reinvent the wheel and it would be stupid in any case. I was looking at the Auckland outbreak in August and I was struck by how effective their contact tracing was. Very few cases were reported as unlinked to others, even when first announced. Even casual contacts such as being on the same bus that led to infection were picked. In contrast of the non-travel cases announced here over the last week, 7 were unlinked compared to 15 that were - about a third. It's not as bad as some places (eg Malta) but it's nothing like as reassuring as the sort of figures they were getting New Zealand. In the end they were able to trace every single case of infection they had. The Isle of Man meanwhile ignores the fact that each of those 7 cases could be the start of a separate outbreak. Keep your eyes tightly closed and the bad thing will go away. And this 'quick' lockdown is estimated to cost at least £8 - £10 million. Maybe we should be looking at things that might reduce the length and scope of the next one. "Not the time to reinvent the wheel" They have have nearly a year, and don't need to invent anything, just look at what proper countries did months ago and take the lessons they have learned on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Gladys said: You like a cautious woman, NB? Is there such a thing? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Woman on breakfast telly this morning from WHO again saying that to get things under control you need good track and trace, testing and genomics. Should we chase those results up again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Insurrection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Boris Johnson said: Woman on breakfast telly this morning from WHO again saying that to get things under control you need good track and trace, testing and genomics. Should we chase those results up again? Test test test trace trace trace. Simple really 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Roxanne said: Time for our voices to be heard. But Howie, Ashie & Henny don’t want to hear them and Don’t mention Rachel again it upsets them! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, horatiotheturd said: "Not the time to reinvent the wheel" They have have nearly a year, and don't need to invent anything, just look at what proper countries did months ago and take the lessons they have learned on board. Its the time to use all the wheels we have though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Roxanne said: To stonewall Dr Glover at this time (and I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there’s some ‘smearing’ going on behind the scenes too) is not in the Island’s best interests. Our government, right now, is not working in the Island’s best interest "Smearing" is sometimes what the island does best when it has taken on something unpalatable to the "system" - a bit like the the body removing things that are poisonous or detrimental (will leave that there....). The only way I could see any reintroduction is for an effective negotiator or middleman (?JW) to try and come to some sort of private agreement that doesn't cast anyone in a bad light. A public display does not hold out much, if any, hope I'm afraid. Either that or create a common enemy (that would be something like a serious escalation or terrifying variant of the virus getting ahold here but that is a bit desperate.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackajah Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Write to your MHK asking for an explanation. Inform them that unless you get one, votes for said MHK will NOT be forthcoming in September (8 months away). Nothing motivates a politician more than the prospect of having his/her snout pulled out of the trough. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Roxanne said: The danger is, that we, as a population are almost desensitised to this information because it happens so often but this is something the public needs to wake up to. But the majority of Manxies are far too comfortable and cosy to wake up though, that's the problem. The last time there was any sort of significant discontent and public unrest was during the bread riots over a hundred years ago when the militia had to be called out to quell the rioters! Mind you, there's no better kindling for rebellion than tyranny and subjugation. Right, back to sleep everyone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, TheTeapot said: Insurrection! not the worst star trek film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Don't forget the unrest and march on Tynwald caused by Manx Gas pricing policy. That stirred them into action 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 13 hours ago, TheTeapot said: Ramsey fit. (sorry Rox, you've loved me for 24 hurs and I've let you down already) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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