asitis Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, jaymann said: They shouldn't have been allowed to enter, considering family can't come to the Island and quarantine for 2 weeks before seeing anyone. Seems like a real double standard. Ahhh but family doesn't involve lucre generally !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The question I keep asking, and no one answers is If we had done genomic testing on the KWC kids. What would we have done differently as a result of the results and what would the different outcome have been To date no one has answered this question It would show that the kid who came here positive picked it up where they had been for Christmas. It would then show that the rest picked it up in isolation at KWC. Benefits to that? Zero that I can see 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Happier diner said: The question I keep asking, and no one answers is If we had done genomic testing on the KWC kids. What would we have done differently as a result of the results and what would the different outcome have been To date no one has answered this question Has anyone said that'd be an appropriate use of it? The whole community outbreak and transmission bits are where it's most valuable. Funnily enough, those are why we're in lockdown, not some kids in isolation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, manxst said: There’s a few people here who happily argue with the scientists, and medical professionals over this very matter. They’ll be along soon to say we’re just a small island and it’s unnecessary.... 14 minutes ago, Johnny F said: Dr Ewart says it's not important to know the genome. I hope she gets onto the WHO and puts them right !!! Shes effing useless. If the IOM successfully eliminates, and has either 21 day quarantine, or testing on days 1, 6/7 and 13 and catches all imported cases whilst they’re in isolation it really makes no difference. It’s interesting academically, but not epidemiologically, for the IOM. WHO advice is one size fits all, and aimed at normal sized countries, most with land borders, not micro states with tightly controlled entry. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Zarley said: Have to wonder if any of them had been tested prior to day 13? If they had been tested prior, and tested negative, doesn't this situation lend credence to the theory regarding the new, more infectious variant taking longer to incubate and produce a positive result? If only we had the means on-island to quickly check for variants. 🤔 @madmanxpilotdo you have a link to your source? Thanks in advance. 😘 The reports say they arrived back on 4/01 , hence day 13 testing on 17/01 . Assume they all had day1/2 testing when one, none or more may have tested positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Banker said: The reports say they arrived back on 4/01 , hence day 13 testing on 17/01 . Assume they all had day1/2 testing when one, none or more may have tested positive It’s interesting that they tested negative on Day 1, day 6/7 yet tested positive on day 13, I wonder if they’ll accept the new strain obviously incubates for longer? Edited January 18, 2021 by Annoymouse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Trench Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Ah well, it's good to hear that they're in good spirits, i wish i was. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, manxst said: And Ministers? Although I guess we’d never have heard the end of it if that was the case. DA said No to this question on the radio. Anyway, as someone pointed out before, it's going into peoples arms, not their ar*es. Edited January 18, 2021 by Apple typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, John Wright said: If the IOM successfully eliminates, and has either 21 day quarantine, or testing on days 1, 6/7 and 13 and catches all imported cases whilst they’re in isolation it really makes no difference. It’s interesting academically, but not epidemiologically, for the IOM. WHO advice is one size fits all, and aimed at normal sized countries, most with land borders, not micro states with tightly controlled entry. Equally, there aren't many micro states with the capability we have to understand what is happening within it to such a fine degree. Especially when it has been offered for free. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Oh good, she checked her emails this time. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 So now we're up to the original 28 days of no transmission before we are satisfied. So a 21 day circuit break was never going to be right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 They're flirting with the 28 day figure now. Pre-warning that we won't be back to normal until then? Making changes to allow more outdoors too when 'the time is right'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Annoymouse said: It’s interesting that they tested negative on Day 1, day 6/7 yet tested positive on day 13, I wonder if they’ll accept the new strain obviously incubates for longer? They may not have tested negative on day1 as I already said, also there was no day 6/7 test as that hadn’t started on 4/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Oh good, she checked her emails this time. I’m sure we’ll still find out this weeks results in other 2 weeks time, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asitis Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, John Wright said: not micro states with tightly controlled entry. I agree entirely John with your post, but not with this bit, we controlled entry for the plebs, the HNWI kept coming and going, people they deemed as Key kept coming and going, even where Key meant Key to someone the government likes, and the latest KWC , well money wouldn't be involved at all in decision making there would it ! To state we have controlled entry is stretching a point ! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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