Max Power Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, John Wright said: And this is the nub of the issue. Howard has to take advice from the experts employed or coopted into government. For good or ill Rachel isn’t in that group. Unfortunately we don’t get to know what advice he gets. Even an anonymised précis. We’d be unhappy if Howard was taking advice from a Rasputin like snake oil salesman. Not of the rulers, yet trying to influence them. But, despite all her qualifications, which are unimpeachable, her publications, which are peer reviewed, and her success in running her genomics company here, that is, to all extents and purposes, the position she occupies. I understand the reason for protecting civil servants from public attack. They advise and CoMin decide. But I get the feeling Howard gets the brief supporting the decision taken but isn’t nimble in explaining it. But publishing, in précis, 4 weeks in arrears a list of the SWOT analysis points considered by CoMin would make government appear much more open. Rachel may be right. She may not be. But she’s answerable to no one. It’s CoMin who are answerable. And it’s hard to judge if they’ve made good decisions when we don’t know the basis and have one vocal person publicly saying they should do something else. Exactly John, however as you point out, HQ has a very poor way of putting his point across and he has basically rubbished the work of a leading expert company based on the island through his inability to communicate. Surely they should have called @rachomicsin for a chat to lay their cards on the table and avoided all of this speculation and unpleasantness. It seems that is beyond their capability! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'd say that Australia has done a very good job of containing outbreaks and allowing people to live relatively normal lives. There are three key elements to being able to maintain an normal life: 1) Test, test, test 2) Rapid response plans for outbreaks 3) Mass populus using contact tracing app to support quick response and isolation directives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Max Power said: Exactly John, however as you point out, HQ has a very poor way of putting his point across and he has basically rubbished the work of a leading expert company based on the island through his inability to communicate. Surely they should have called @rachomicsin for a chat to lay their cards on the table and avoided all of this speculation and unpleasantness. It seems that is beyond their capability! Hard to do when she’s publicly threatened to sue. Ive no idea if the expensive lawyers she’s tweeted and posted on here as employing have written a letter before action. If I was advising, which I’m not, at AG’s I’d be saying don’t meet. On the other hand I’d be suggesting get a mediator in quick. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Johnson Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 42 minutes ago, manxst said: What changed was....”We believe that our current copyright dispute surrounding specialist software the DHSC failed to license from us is the reason why they will not use our services, despite the obvious advantages to working with us rather than against us”. This also means that the government would rather send tests across for a two week turnaround rather than the 36(?) hours the on Island lab can produce. Oh, not to mention spending all that money off Island... Putting pride before a fall, methinks.... This is disgusting, you just don't steal software in business. Its a big no no. You also don't take a product given at cost with goodwill and sell it on to private individuals. The software theft is the worst of the 2, I hope she takes them to the cleaners over it, bloody unbelievable that they wont pay for it. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I agree Rox, but the whiff of litigation means they will never capitulate. Our loss, but after seeing that, I cannot see any way back, much to my own immense disappointment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, John Wright said: We’d be unhappy if Howard was taking advice from a Rasputin like snake oil salesman. Historically, Snake Oil salesmen have an outstanding record in their dealings with our leaders.... 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Can we not crowdfund her a harley? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Non-Believer said: Historically, Snake Oil salesmen have an outstanding record in their dealings with our leaders.... Free E-class with every 100 minibuses. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 She appears to have taken on the “troublesome/turbulent priest” guise of Thomas a Beckett to Howard’s Henry II. Lets hope none of Howard’s knights are stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulb Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: Historically, Snake Oil salesmen have an outstanding record in their dealings with our leaders.... Not to mention the Space Shuttle at Jurby, Were we not going to be the 5th most likely Nation to go into Space ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulb Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Free E-class with every 100 minibuses. Must be getting close to the Free E Class then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc.fixit Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, LightBulb said: Not to mention the Space Shuttle at Jurby, Were we not going to be the 5th most likely Nation to go into Space ? ....and the radio mast at the point and the, marinas', and the air ships and the .....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yibble Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, John Wright said: I’d be suggesting get a mediator in quick. That also struck me as the most likely path both to obtaining a good outcome for the Island and to minimising ongoing embarrassment and reputational damage for all parties. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, doc.fixit said: ....and the radio mast at the point and the, marinas', and the air ships and the .....??? Island-wide IRIS, The Cabbage....shall we lob in the power station? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, Roxanne said: They have no intention of building bridges. They'd rather the whole thing disappeared. The bottom line is that someone had the absolute gall to challenge them on some of their statements. They retaliated with a completely unbelievable story of an anonymous letter supporting their spin that was shredded the day it arrived. The public, understandably smelled a long tail. The government were ridiculed and someone had to pay. It was never going to be them. They chose Dr Glover. What they didn't consider (because they never look further than the nose on their face) is that they are not only making Dr Glover pay - they are making the Manx public pay. We are now in lockdown again. It could have been avoided. Mental health is affected, cash flow is affected, liberty is affected. And why? Because they fucked up, and now they're covering up. That's the bottom line. Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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