quilp Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 39 minutes ago, Roxanne said: The only way is for the people of the Isle of Man to become aware of what is going on and to demand answers and not to give up. Ain't gonna happen, as we well know. According to that fb poll, the majority of people who responded are fully content with the way things are being handled by government. They're as apathetic on this as they are about voting... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 It would be helpful if the press - including the newspapers - reported on this neutrally and really drove the message home about how stupid some of this stuff is. Alas, don't bite the hand that feeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 45 minutes ago, LightBulb said: Not to mention the Space Shuttle at Jurby, Were we not going to be the 5th most likely Nation to go into Space ? To go to the Moon! That was the claim at the time anyway, I think it's Mars now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Gladys said: I agree Rox, but the whiff of litigation means they will never capitulate. Our loss, but after seeing that, I cannot see any way back, much to my own immense disappointment. It will be "our" loss too. One way or another, we'll be paying for it. As ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Max Power said: To go to the Moon! That was the claim at the time anyway, I think it's Mars now? The nearest Moon we'd ever be getting to was running around Andreas School playing fields.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I've worked out the answer, Dr G just needs to offer some free genomics on prize Aberdeen Angus herds on the island too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 49 minutes ago, Non-Believer said: ...shall we lob in the power station? Just the undersea cable and the non transparent way it was financed. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2112 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, LightBulb said: Not to mention the Space Shuttle at Jurby, Were we not going to be the 5th most likely Nation to go into Space ? I thought we were going to set up a rocket launching facility at Jurby . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueblood Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, John Wright said: She appears to have taken on the “troublesome/turbulent priest” guise of Thomas a Beckett to Howard’s Henry II. Lets hope none of Howard’s knights are stupid. Are his comments potentially slanderous? Reputationally damaging to her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Yibble said: That also struck me as the most likely path both to obtaining a good outcome for the Island and to minimising ongoing embarrassment and reputational damage for all parties. I did suggest it but my recommended middle man turned it down. probably right as well. There is no going back from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Trueblood said: Are his comments potentially slanderous? Reputationally damaging to her? They were said on an occasion of absolute privilege. The traditional response in such circumstances is to invite the maker to repeat the remarks outside of parliament. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Yibble said: That also struck me as the most likely path both to obtaining a good outcome for the Island and to minimising ongoing embarrassment and reputational damage for all parties. The claim on Dr G's side is that when lawyers were trying to work out an agreement, DHSC was being less than clear. Taxagenomics didn't want to work without a clear agreement in place, DHSC allegedly couldn't articulate what they wanted/were asking for full liability for false positives/negatives to be on Taxagenomics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Trueblood said: Are his comments potentially slanderous? Reputationally damaging to her? That could be argued certainly. He should have said it was governments view rather than stating it as fact. Saying that, anyone wishing to legally challenge the statement would have to prove, beyond any reasonable doubt, that he was wrong. Its subjective so that would be difficult. Unprofessional though all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueblood Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, John Wright said: They were said on an occasion of absolute privilege. The traditional response in such circumstances is to invite the maker to repeat the remarks outside of parliament. So if he said something similar at the next press conference he might be in a bit of bother legally? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: The claim on Dr G's side is that when lawyers were trying to work out an agreement, DHSC was being less than clear. Taxagenomics didn't want to work without a clear agreement in place, DHSC allegedly couldn't articulate what they wanted/were asking for full liability for false positives/negatives to be on Taxagenomics. As I understand it reading between her Tweets and what's been put out there, when she left DHSC got some machine of their own which she previously supplied, then copied her software without her permission rather than licensing and configuring it themselves too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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