manxst Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, NoTail said: A worry about our long term plan to open the borders. Using very rough figures assume a population of 90,000 and rought 1/3 over 60, 1/3 20-59 and 1/3 under 20. If we assume 10% of over 60s refuse vaccination (nutters) and same for the middle group then at end 9f May there would be 36,000 over 50s exposed to infection in the population 3,000 over 60. There are only 20 odd beds in Nobles to cope, so we would rapidly get overwhelmed. By end September when the whole population has been eligible for vaccination there would still be around 9,000 who refused. We need a good plan to beef up the hospital or we will never open the borders based on current thinking. Make those who choose not to vaccinate stay under lockdown conditions. They’d soon see sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 18 minutes ago, John Wright said: Mark Windows “Windows on the World” Mr Houston seems to contribute. The American man also interviewed in that scary video believes some extraordinary stuff. Worth watching just for how mad his Trump/QAnon perspective is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 hours ago, TheTeapot said: I had to read and listen to some utter shit to get that for you all, so I hope you appreciate it. i guess it makes a change from talking and typing it. 😄 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: And interestingly not a word about it on the Nation's Station this morning. If they don’t discuss it, eventually it goes away. Like they’re doing to Dr Glover. Cowardly and lacking in taking responsibility, or being transparent with their policies/leadership. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Roxanne said: I watched a documentary yesterday about the radicalisation of the middle-aged and above Americans who buy into the whole QAnon, COVID-19 is a hoax, anti mask,Democratic paedophile ring, white supremacy, Trump supporter ethos. Scared the bejesus out of me. They're never going to change their minds unless they go through serious deconditioning and for that they have to want to -and they don't - they live in a complete bubble surrounded by everything and everyone who supports their view. Scary stuff. The USA have some deep rooted problems which have festered for decades. It will take more than cutting the head off the snake to remedy them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, John Wright said: Ashie has been caught suggesting we may move from manufacturers recommended 21/28 day interval between Covid vaccine doses and follow the UK 12 week interval. Today we will hit 5% population receiving first dose. UK about 8% and Israel 25%. Israel is using the 12 week interval. But they’re finding that the effectiveness is way below the 52% pfizer figure for single dose effectiveness. And Israel has seen its highest level of new cases in the pandemic so far, 8,000 per day. Equivalent to 64,000 in UK terms. Despite whatever community immunity there is and 25% vaccination. Probably realizing with slow roll out he won’t meet targets so needs more vaccinations done to more people, probably follow Guernsey on 6 weeks gap . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Was told this morning that Gov department planning for more free/loose movement has been pushed from 1st July target to 1st October. MGP 95% out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, jaymann said: Was told this morning that Gov department planning for more free/loose movement has been pushed from 1st July target to 1st October. MGP 95% out the window. Ashie said borders would be considered May once priority groups vaccinated but Howie said maybe sooner depending on uk infection rates which thankfully seem to starting to fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Banker said: Ashie said borders would be considered May once priority groups vaccinated but Howie said maybe sooner depending on uk infection rates which thankfully seem to starting to fall I'm sure they did. But that's not what the planning behind the scenes is working to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Banker said: Sausage fingers - duplicate Edited January 20, 2021 by Mr Helmut Fromage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Helmut Fromage Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, Mr Helmut Fromage said: Starting any post with "Ashie said" might not add to its credibility. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, jaymann said: I'm sure they did. But that's not what the planning behind the scenes is working to. And with the vaccine dates getting stretched too, I wonder what has significantly changed recently, or what news they have received? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, manxst said: And with the vaccine dates getting stretched too, I wonder what has significantly changed recently, or what news they have received? Possible vaccine supply problems from Pfizer, news from Canada is reduced deliveries this week, none next week and less the week after, apparently they are reorganizing to make efficiencies and produce more. If that's accurate then i assume it will have a knock on effect around the world. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, The Chief said: Possible vaccine supply problems from Pfizer, news from Canada is reduced deliveries this week, none next week and less the week after, apparently they are reorganizing to make efficiencies and produce more. If that's accurate then i assume it will have a knock on effect around the world. Yes that is well documented. Expected to be a blip of 2 weeks. Let's hope those clever folks at the plant in Belgium get their process changes done quicker than expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Presser moved to tomorrow following meeting of COMIN. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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