jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, manxst said: I’m not saying they magic up staff. Im sure it’s a problem getting people to the island. I’m merely saying that might be why they said beds. I'm sure a definition of 'usable beds' rather than a physical count of beds is more appropriate terminology. Edited January 20, 2021 by jaymann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, manxst said: I’m not saying they magic up staff. Im sure it’s a problem getting people to the island. I’m merely saying that might be why they said beds. Ah ok. I must have misunderstood "simple failure of management/HR to get more in" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, jaymann said: I'm sure a definitely of 'usable beds' rather than a physical count of beds is more appropriate terminology. Imagine the outcry if they said that? All those millions spent on the new Nobles and we can't use all the beds! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, horatiotheturd said: Ah ok. I must have misunderstood "simple failure of management/HR to get more in" Probably veered over more to one side than I should’ve- my bad. The problem is lack of transparency. I totally appreciate there will be problem with employing staff, but at the same time, that IS a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gladys said: Wasn't "beds" one of the normal measures for hospitals? When they are waiting for a bed, I always assumed it really meant waiting for the staff to be available to admit you to the ward, not that you were waiting for someone to vacate a bed. https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.m4920 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finlo Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Thats not fair. Where are they meant to just magic extra staff up from? Look on the recruitment sites. They are offering higher salaries than UK, paid relocation and full pay while people isolate and still can't attract them here The culture up there means staff retention will always be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Gladys said: Imagine the outcry if they said that? All those millions spent on the new Nobles and we can't use all the beds! Trump can say he built the wall. But we all know he only got a small part of it built. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, wrighty said: https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.m4920 I get the point, I always understood a bed to be a unit of the support and resource to treat one patient, including the bed, not that it was just a bed. Perhaps it is down to shorthanded terminology. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Hard to believe that. yes, only an hour ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Just now, WTF said: yes, only an hour ?? Silly boy. Are you getting mixed up with waiting times in A&E with people with soar toes and broken finger nails ? Edited January 20, 2021 by dilligaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 The culture up there means staff retention will always be a problem. Staff are being asked to double up on their workloads due to shortages. A lot of staff are leaving lately due to the way things going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxst Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Silly boy. Are you getting mixed up with waiting times in A&E with people with soar toes and broken finger nails ? Silly old man. It’s SORE. Are you getting toes and birdies mixed up? you still haven’t replied with why you don’t believe there was a queue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, manxst said: Silly old man. It’s SORE. Are you getting toes and birdies mixed up? you still haven’t replied with why you don’t believe there was a queue? It was an attempt on life by overdose. I don't exactly consider it the same as a broken bloody toe and I'd encourage dilli to show some respect that just because it's not a positive sentiment, doesn't mean that it isn't true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, jaymann said: It was an attempt on life by overdose. I don't exactly consider it the same as a broken bloody toe and I'd encourage dilli to show some respect that just because it's not a positive sentiment, doesn't mean that it isn't true. Respect for what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymann Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Just now, dilligaf said: Respect for what ? We aren't talking about someone rocking up to A&E waiting for an hour to get a splinter taken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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