Newbie Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: Whilst that is true, how many other infectious diseases do the UK and we routinely test people for even without any symptoms. Chlamydia, Syphilis, HIV, Rubella.............to name a few 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, Nom de plume said: You'll do well to convince me that we shouldn't be shielding the vulnerable until they are vaccinated whilst the rest of us crack on. You keep saying that, without explaining how the vulnerable shield effectively without everyone connected with them (carers, relatives, co-workers etc) and thus everyone connected to them (relatives of carers, children of co-workers etc ad nauseam) shielding also, such that effectively everyone is shielding i.e. lockdown. It really is the only way, until such time as we're vaccinated. Otherwise you end up like the UK - they're shielding the vulnerable while everyone (unofficially at least) just 'cracks on' by ignoring the rules if they feel ok. Is that what you want? I agree though to some extent - once your most vulnerable cohorts are covered, let's get on with it. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wright Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: Whilst that is true, how many other infectious diseases do the UK and we routinely test people for even without any symptoms. If there was, heaven forbid, an outbreak of polio or smallpox, in an area where vaccination levels were ultra low, there’d be track + trace of contacts and then testing. We, IOM & UK are very lucky that we don’t, generally, have pandemics of infectious diseases, mainly due to vaccination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Newbie said: Chlamydia, Syphilis, HIV, Rubella.............to name a few I am not aware of ever being routinely checked for any of those just because I had been to Liverpool. Might not have been a bad shout on some occasions though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Interesting to hear Nazir Afzal's comments (respected solicitor & former Chief Crown prosecutor for NW England) on BBC TV this morning. He is considering taking legal action against Boris Johnson following the death of one of his relatives from covid. Worth reading some of the tweets : https://twitter.com/nazirafzal/status/1354130875408142338 Edited January 27, 2021 by dreamon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 When Boris says: "As prime minister, I take full responsibility for everything that the government has done," then there are going to be lawyers salivating and frothing at the mouth everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: I am not aware of ever being routinely checked for any of those just because I had been to Liverpool. Might not have been a bad shout on some occasions though. You may not have needed them to go to Liverpool (although coming back it might be different!) but the point is that they are infectious diseases that are screened for in asymptomatic people at certain times, so testing asymptomatic people is not that unusual, depending on the circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrighty Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Newbie said: You may not have needed them to go to Liverpool (although coming back it might be different!) but the point is that they are infectious diseases that are screened for in asymptomatic people at certain times, so testing asymptomatic people is not that unusual, depending on the circumstances. We swab for MRSA all the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happier diner Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 57 minutes ago, Barlow said: When Boris says: "As prime minister, I take full responsibility for everything that the government has done," then there are going to be lawyers salivating and frothing at the mouth everywhere. I imagine he is personally indemnified against being sued Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Good to see Ms Magson teaming-up with Henny in the Q&A. Some pertinent questions being asked by locals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, quilp said: Good to see Ms Magson teaming-up with Henny in the Q&A. Some pertinent questions being asked by locals. 2nd day running where i can applaud the openess and transparency. Big thanks and well done to those involved. Very positive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Maybe this kind of presentation could've been happening months ago. Very refreshing that it's not the usual staid and uninspiring format. The ladies are doing a grand job... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annoymouse Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 By far the best press briefing I’ve seen, really raised the bar with this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, quilp said: Maybe this kind of presentation could've been happening months ago. Very refreshing that it's not the usual staid and uninspiring format. The ladies are doing a grand job... Yes some good questions & answers, interesting someone asked when was the pandemic plan last updates and answer was it's a pandemic influenza plan which was updated in February 2020 and its controlled by Home Affairs i.e. cregeen !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quilp Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Quayle and Ashford's latest comment on Dr. Glover without actually mentioning her name. Wonder what @rachomics reply might entail... http://www.iomtoday.co.im/article.cfm?id=60224&headline=Covid analysis can't be done here§ionIs=NEWS&searchyear=2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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