horatiotheturd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Oh right, how many people normally die from respiratory diseases in 27 days in January? You tell me. You are the one who made out it was a huge number Edited January 28, 2021 by horatiotheturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: Oh right, how many people normally die from respiratory diseases in 27 days in January? Average deaths of all causes in England and Wales (so not uk) for 2019 and 2020 in January appears to be about 55,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) January 18 was 64,000 for just England and Wales Edited January 28, 2021 by horatiotheturd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: In an attempt to help out in this absurd argument that I still don't really understand I went looking at some stats. Did you know that an astonishing 27000 people have died from it in January alone? Anyway, cases are falling, and hospital admissions, and the total number in hospital (still 30846 from a high of 34336 on the 18th, but a lot of people have died since then), but not quick enough. I still don't know what the point is though. They're a very long way from getting it sorted. All while in a national lockdown. IF they started to ease that now the cases will be straight back up. In a few months they may be in a position to see if the vaccination levels are enough to prevent a third wave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: You tell me. You are the one who made out it was a huge number So between week 40 2019 and week 3 2020, so October on for last winter... Quote A total of 1,462 new admissions (111 influenza A(H1N1pdm09), 340 influenza A(H3N2), 954 influenza A(not subtyped) and 57 influenza B) and 70 confirmed deaths have been reported in the UK since week 40 2019. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/860304/Weekly_national_influenza_report_week_4_2020.pdf I could probably delve deeper, find other reports, but I'd suggest your 'not by a huge amount' is likely wrong. By a huge amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: So between week 40 2019 and week 3 2020, so October on for last winter... https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/860304/Weekly_national_influenza_report_week_4_2020.pdf I could probably delve deeper, find other reports, but I'd suggest your 'not by a huge amount' is likely wrong. By a huge amount. Does respiratory disease = influenza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Good grief. What, exactly, is the point you've been trying to make over these pages and pages of utter drivel? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: In a few months they may be in a position to see if the vaccination levels are enough to prevent a third wave. And in the meantime they're going to reopen the schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: Does respiratory disease = influenza? OK add some pneumonia death into the mix Edited January 28, 2021 by TheTeapot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) It is impossible to try and calculate when a hospital is deemed to be overwhelmed. There are so many factors. It isn't just about beds, or spaces, or staff. Edited January 28, 2021 by Apple 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, TheTeapot said: OK add some pneumonia death into the mix Try one for the winter rather than the height of summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, horatiotheturd said: Try one for the winter rather than the height of summer. Well. that chart starts in January, and there weren't many covid deaths in the summer, or officially in January either. I still don't know what your point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TheTeapot said: Well. that chart starts in January, and there weren't many covid deaths in the summer, or officially in January either. I still don't know what your point is. Show me one for January 2021 with the new treatments for covid taken into account Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTeapot Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Its still January, they won't be published. What is the point you are still failing to make? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, horatiotheturd said: Its black and white and very simple to prove 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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