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54 minutes ago, Apple said:

It is impossible to try and calculate when a hospital is deemed to be overwhelmed. There are so many factors. It isn't just about beds, or spaces, or staff.

The only thing the Isle of Man has control of just now is to keep to zero Covid.

Anything else is a gamble and going into the unknown... although it isn't really unknow because the rest of the world - in particular UK - is showing us.

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18 hours ago, horatiotheturd said:

Honestly.  If you asked her she would rather not be here than exist like she does now.  Especially now she can't even look forward to see the few people in life she enjoys spending time with.

It would hugely hurt us as a family if she weren't here, but in total honesty would be a blessing for all concerned in the medium to long term.

Not easy to say or type but you did ask.

That is very sad, is there a support group of some kind that could help to broaden your daughter's horizons?  I'm probably asking the blindingly obvious, but it sounds as though you all could do with some respite and support.  

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7 minutes ago, Declan said:

Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter?

How could we know ? Do we keep stats on that? Some people self manage it anyway, especially if they can't see the GP.

The effect on the flu vaccine will probably have made a difference. 

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15 minutes ago, Declan said:

Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter?

I used to get a chest infection every winter that lasted a month or so. Used to pay for a private flu jab to try to prevent it. 

Turns out I had asthma, which presumably made any infection drag on for ages  

I’ve been fine so far this year. Whether that’s to do with being inside most of the last month or everyone hopefully being more hygiene aware 🤷🏻‍♂️

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24 minutes ago, Declan said:

Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter?

Well we're only 4 weeks in Dec so its a bit early to tell, however we can guess (as we have no supporting data) that as the method of transmission is similar to covid and everyone has been taking covid precautions (masks, handwashing etc) and the borders, schools, bars, workplaces etc have all been shut, the rate of aerosol transmission is right down.

Or in laymans terms, covid has given the flu a right good kicking.

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13 hours ago, horatiotheturd said:

No idea what you are on about.

Its black and white and very simple to prove 

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We can play the graph game. Look at hospital admissions, i.e the bit we're discussing.

Note how the drop is much shallower, and the people getting into hospital? Well, the issue there is it's on a much more shallow decline.

 

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13 hours ago, Banker said:

That’s means the vast majority do have ITU capacity! The daily cases are half what they were a few weeks ago so hopefully deaths will fall in next few weeks.

There does seem delight in lots of quarters including on MF when cases & deaths are high in UK  for some reason 

You always want spare capacity, otherwise, what do you do when there's a nasty accident? Or someone needs surgery?

The ITU beds are free because they've been made a very last resort.

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1 hour ago, piebaps said:

Well we're only 4 weeks in Dec so its a bit early to tell, however we can guess (as we have no supporting data) that as the method of transmission is similar to covid and everyone has been taking covid precautions (masks, handwashing etc) and the borders, schools, bars, workplaces etc have all been shut, the rate of aerosol transmission is right down.

Or in laymans terms, covid has given the flu a right good kicking.

The important bit to remember is that social distancing etc.

All the modelling was done based on the flu, as it was always expected we'd get another weird and wonderful flu coming along.

Turns out, when you implement the measures you know work well against a flu pandemic, flu drops.

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2 hours ago, Declan said:

Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter?

Apparently there were no recorded cases of flu in the UK in week three 2021. The reason is that only limited testing is available due to the fact that Covid testing has taken all the capacity. 

 

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1 minute ago, Roxanne said:

I remember reading somewhere, sometime, that testing for arrivals has been stopped.  Can anyone confirm this and if my memory is correct is that why there are no new cases being reported?

(sorry - no graph is available for this question)

Surely it’s still Day 1, Day 6 and 13?

People are not banned from travelling are they, only discouraged?

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