Barlow Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 54 minutes ago, Apple said: It is impossible to try and calculate when a hospital is deemed to be overwhelmed. There are so many factors. It isn't just about beds, or spaces, or staff. The only thing the Isle of Man has control of just now is to keep to zero Covid. Anything else is a gamble and going into the unknown... although it isn't really unknow because the rest of the world - in particular UK - is showing us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 10 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: Does respiratory disease = influenza? it did for decades, but now it means covid, change the name change the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 18 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: Honestly. If you asked her she would rather not be here than exist like she does now. Especially now she can't even look forward to see the few people in life she enjoys spending time with. It would hugely hurt us as a family if she weren't here, but in total honesty would be a blessing for all concerned in the medium to long term. Not easy to say or type but you did ask. That is very sad, is there a support group of some kind that could help to broaden your daughter's horizons? I'm probably asking the blindingly obvious, but it sounds as though you all could do with some respite and support. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apple Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Declan said: Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter? How could we know ? Do we keep stats on that? Some people self manage it anyway, especially if they can't see the GP. The effect on the flu vaccine will probably have made a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Git Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, Declan said: Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter? I used to get a chest infection every winter that lasted a month or so. Used to pay for a private flu jab to try to prevent it. Turns out I had asthma, which presumably made any infection drag on for ages I’ve been fine so far this year. Whether that’s to do with being inside most of the last month or everyone hopefully being more hygiene aware 🤷🏻♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, Declan said: Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piebaps Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Declan said: Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter? Well we're only 4 weeks in Dec so its a bit early to tell, however we can guess (as we have no supporting data) that as the method of transmission is similar to covid and everyone has been taking covid precautions (masks, handwashing etc) and the borders, schools, bars, workplaces etc have all been shut, the rate of aerosol transmission is right down. Or in laymans terms, covid has given the flu a right good kicking. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Declan Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, piebaps said: Well we're only 4 weeks in Dec so its a bit early to tell, Where've you been it's almost February? You've missed Christmas, man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 hours ago, horatiotheturd said: No idea what you are on about. Its black and white and very simple to prove We can play the graph game. Look at hospital admissions, i.e the bit we're discussing. Note how the drop is much shallower, and the people getting into hospital? Well, the issue there is it's on a much more shallow decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 hours ago, Banker said: That’s means the vast majority do have ITU capacity! The daily cases are half what they were a few weeks ago so hopefully deaths will fall in next few weeks. There does seem delight in lots of quarters including on MF when cases & deaths are high in UK for some reason You always want spare capacity, otherwise, what do you do when there's a nasty accident? Or someone needs surgery? The ITU beds are free because they've been made a very last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Declan said: Where've you been it's almost February? You've missed Christmas, man. He’s like the rest of government, one month behind everyone else😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, piebaps said: Well we're only 4 weeks in Dec so its a bit early to tell, however we can guess (as we have no supporting data) that as the method of transmission is similar to covid and everyone has been taking covid precautions (masks, handwashing etc) and the borders, schools, bars, workplaces etc have all been shut, the rate of aerosol transmission is right down. Or in laymans terms, covid has given the flu a right good kicking. The important bit to remember is that social distancing etc. All the modelling was done based on the flu, as it was always expected we'd get another weird and wonderful flu coming along. Turns out, when you implement the measures you know work well against a flu pandemic, flu drops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Power Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Declan said: Have the closed borders, quarantine of incomers and lockdown meant that there's been fewer flu cases this winter? Apparently there were no recorded cases of flu in the UK in week three 2021. The reason is that only limited testing is available due to the fact that Covid testing has taken all the capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nom de plume Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Roxanne said: I remember reading somewhere, sometime, that testing for arrivals has been stopped. Can anyone confirm this and if my memory is correct is that why there are no new cases being reported? (sorry - no graph is available for this question) Surely it’s still Day 1, Day 6 and 13? People are not banned from travelling are they, only discouraged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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