Barlow Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, AlanShimmin said: Isolation hotels are the only safe option. You cry about the personal freedoms of those who choose to travel. What about the personal freedoms of those who don't travel but get locked down when travellers re-import the virus? John Wright posted earlier that tags were trialled but the Island's geography made them unreliable. I call bollox. Manx Telecom have 4G coverage for 99% of the island geography and population. (oh, and always be aware of the saying that advocates are wrong 50% of the time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: What's the tangible benefit to the tagging? We have high compliance with the measures anyway. We've had a handful of high profile breaches and that's it. For the cost of it actually being set up, versus the cost of nosy neighbours calling the COVID line, the value simply isn't there. I don't want it or think its necessary. Would simply be to placate those who think people isolating can't be trusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banker Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, pongo said: Not making selfish or unnecessary journeys until this thing is sorted is a much better idea. It should be medical treatment and genuinely essential workers only. What about someone coming over on compassionate grounds for their sons funeral, suppose a miserable t*** like you would ban them as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, horatiotheturd said: I have an IQ that is triple figures. That qualifies me to say there is no risk to guys coming and knocking on your door. Plus the fact that none of them.havs caught COVID How many of the people they've been knocking on the door of have been symptomatic and shedding? If your IQ is triple figures, that could easily put you in the average bracket. Well done. The whole point is that the average person scores 100. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanShimmin Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Barlow said: I call bollox. Manx Telecom have 4G coverage for 99% of the island geography and population. (oh, and always be aware of the saying that advocates are wrong 50% of the time) Why do we want to tag people anyway? Tagging doesn't stop the spread of the virus. All it would do is let you know that someone has broken isolation. They could get on a bus, go into town.. by the time someone is sent round to their address it's already too late. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Agreed (to AlanShimmin 8 mins ago)but an unannounced visit might not catch the minority idiot but does increase risk to the visitor and the visited. That risk is hard to quantify but it is not zero. Edit to add in brackets Edited January 30, 2021 by ballaughbiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Tatlock Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, horatiotheturd said: I have an IQ that is triple figures. Yeah...around 13.7 going by your posts. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 minute ago, ballaughbiker said: Agreed but an unannounced visit might not catch the minority idiot but does increase risk to the visitor and the visited. That risk is hard to quantify but it is not zero. Well, from what I've heard, the checkers essentially want the isolatee to wave through the window, which is pretty low risk, whilst verifying that they're in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: Why do we want to tag people anyway? Tagging doesn't stop the spread of the virus. All it would do is let you know that someone has broken isolation. They could get on a bus, go into town.. by the time someone is sent round to their address it's already too late. Isle of Man: Tag 'em....track 'em...jail 'em. Or not. Their choice. UK: 40% of people beak isolation rules. Who really gives a toss eh? Isle of Man - Covid Free UK: Basket case. Go figure, as the saying goes. Edited January 30, 2021 by Barlow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barlow Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, AlanShimmin said: Why do we want to tag people anyway? Tagging doesn't stop the spread of the virus. All it would do is let you know that someone has broken isolation. They could get on a bus, go into town.. by the time someone is sent round to their address it's already too late. Why put up 30mph speed limit signs? They don't stop speeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horatiotheturd Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, Albert Tatlock said: Yeah...around 13.7 going by your posts. Seems like a good point to ask you for the evidence that the figures i put up the other night weren't correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Quote Well, from what I've heard, the checkers essentially want the isolatee to wave through the window, which is pretty low risk, whilst verifying that they're in. If only. Strangely enough, I did suggest to CO a few days ago that if the property was suitable (so not flats etc) they wouldn't even need to get out of their vehicle if they just rang and said 'come to the window'. That too would be zero risk if they made it policy. Edited January 30, 2021 by ballaughbiker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcousticallyChallenged Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barlow said: Why put up 30mph speed limit signs? They don't stop speeding. They don't, it's the copper hiding round the corner that does. And the 3 points and £100 fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Banker said: What about someone coming over on compassionate grounds for their sons funeral, suppose a miserable t*** like you would ban them as well It seems like a genuine need. I can certainly see a case for somehow trying to accommodate that. Where as taking someone to university clearly isn't given that adulthood is one of the entry requirements and they don't need their hand held. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballaughbiker Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Quote I have an IQ that is triple figures. That qualifies me to say there is no risk to guys coming and knocking on your door. Impressive qualification, maybe, but irrelevant. Quote Plus the fact that none of them.havs caught COVID 1) Unverifiable 2) anecdotal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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