Gladys Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Lord knows what daft decisions have been made on advice. Advice depends on the question asked and if you get conflicting advice are you forgiven for following the wrong advice? The Trump documentary last night was very interesting. After Iran shot down a US drone the NSC precisely followed the model decision-making process and resolved that a targeted attack on Iranian military targets was justified. Trump cancelled it within minutes of launch because an unnamed lawyer came to him and raised doubts about possible Iranian fatalities. So, all the experts, following the exact protocols were overruled by a decision outside of those protocols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxtoffee Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, piebaps said: Rox, we clearly have different views for what constitutes investigative journalism. Dickhead has simply tweeted something he was told and will say that any panic is the Government's fault. It is simply lazy journalism and he's probably at home know knocking one out over the number of retweets he's getting. Definitely not investigative in any way. To be fair it is usually the government that causes panic through their inaction and incompetence in certain situations. They have a knack for blaming the journos or the man next door or anybody else they can think of except themselves. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladys Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, kevster said: Traveled on the same boat/plane Even so they should have been isolating alone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floors4u Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 19 minutes ago, Banker said: Unless there’s unknown community cases there should be no lockdown, just ridiculous to even consider one. Probably getting pushed by public sector who want another few weeks on full pay at home. My god , you are so very annoying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Thank fuck howie wasn't crowing about our success on daytime tv. Famed for their love of follow up stories 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Source of Gravity Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Interesting that research about the vaccine says it reduces symptoms and spread, but clearly doesn’t stop either completely. Vaccines aren’t the solve all solution that everyone thinks they are. This premise applies to all vaccines & viruses. Unfortunately COVID is more damaging to human health than things like the common cold. That is before we talking about different strains and how vaccines become out of date very quickly. Globally there has to be a change of mentality to a more humble existence, which the IoM generally displays and that is one of the factors behind our generally sound response to COVID. One of our main problems is the UK response to COVID and our close proximity to England. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stinking enigma Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I can see him sending henrietta in his place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Mexico Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Obviously some people think that 'proper' journalism is just repeating whatever appears on a government media release as closely as possible. Mind you there's enough of that around, that you can see how people get fooled. This is real payback for Quayle's triumphant series of appearances on TV, isn't it? Not that he will learn anything from it, as we can see by there being no announcements till 6 pm. Maybe he thinks we ought to give the virus a head start, public school sporting values and all that. More likely the delay is while the Comms Team pen another of those rambling, unclear 'statements' full of folksy 'jokes' that Quayle will read out while giving the impression that he's never actually encountered any of those words before. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 35 minutes ago, AcousticallyChallenged said: Israeli data suggests it does. It was likely, but science works on data not predictions. That's good news then, to be honest I have stopped listening to the news and I feel much better for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Source of Gravity said: Interesting that research about the vaccine says it reduces symptoms and spread, but clearly doesn’t stop either completely. Vaccines aren’t the solve all solution that everyone thinks they are. This premise applies to all vaccines & viruses. Unfortunately COVID is more damaging to human health than things like the common cold. That is before we talking about different strains and how vaccines become out of date very quickly. Globally there has to be a change of mentality to a more humble existence, which the IoM generally displays and that is one of the factors behind our generally sound response to COVID. One of our main problems is the UK response to COVID and our close proximity to England. 85K people are a lot easier to control than 66 Million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Source of Gravity Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Pride always comes before a fall unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Onchan Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Roger Mexico said: Obviously some people think that 'proper' journalism is just repeating whatever appears on a government media release as closely as possible. Mind you there's enough of that around, that you can see how people get fooled. This is real payback for Quayle's triumphant series of appearances on TV, isn't it? Not that he will learn anything from it, as we can see by there being no announcements till 6 pm. Maybe he thinks we ought to give the virus a head start, public school sporting values and all that. More likely the delay is while the Comms Team pen another of those rambling, unclear 'statements' full of folksy 'jokes' that Quayle will read out while giving the impression that he's never actually encountered any of those words before. I think it will be just the usual hyperbowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Non-Believer Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Roger Mexico said: This is real payback for Quayle's triumphant series of appearances on TV, isn't it? I was going to suggest that, if we've got a cluster I can feel the gloating from the C.Is and elsewhere already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryFuchwit Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, Andy Onchan said: In which case they should be vaccinated. That makes logical sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thommo2010 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Gladys said: Lord knows what daft decisions have been made on advice. Advice depends on the question asked and if you get conflicting advice are you forgiven for following the wrong advice? The Trump documentary last night was very interesting. After Iran shot down a US drone the NSC precisely followed the model decision-making process and resolved that a targeted attack on Iranian military targets was justified. Trump cancelled it within minutes of launch because an unnamed lawyer came to him and raised doubts about possible Iranian fatalities. So, all the experts, following the exact protocols were overruled by a decision outside of those protocols. Christ almighty they can't even sort out their flumes why are they getting involved in military attacks. They need to be spending more time on local issues. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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